WTC 1-2: Reports of explosions after impact and during collapses

  1. September 11, 2001, NBC News Transcripts, ‘Attack on America, 11:00 AM’: “Chief Albert Turi told me that he was here just literally 10 or 15 minutes after the events that took place this morning. That is, the first crash. … The chief of safe–the Chief of Safety of the Fire Department of New York City told me that at–shortly after 9:00 he had roughly 10 alarms, roughly 200 men, in the building trying to effect rescues of some of those civilians who were in there. And that, basically, he received word of a possibility of a secondary device–that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said that there was another explosion which took place. And then, an hour after the first hit here, the first crash that took place, he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here. So, obviously he–according to his theory, he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building. One of the secondary devices, he thinks, that took place after the initial impact, was, he thinks, may have been on the plane that crashed into one of the towers. The second device, he thinks, he speculates, was probably planted in the building. So, that’s what we have been told by Albert Turi who is the chief of safety for the New York City Fire Department. He told me that just moments ago. Now we are continuing to hear explosions. We are continuing to hear explosions here downtown. And what we’ve been told by some of the fire officials is that there are some gas lines that occasionally are exploding down there…” (Turi retired in 2002, along with many other supervisors and ordinary fireman in a “mass exodus”.) August 7, 2002, New York Times, ‘City’s Fire Dept. Facing an Exodus of its Supervisors’: “Scores of New York City’s Fire Department supervisors, including some of its most senior surviving commanders, have retired since Sept. 11, and hundreds more have notified their union that they expect to leave in the next year. At the same time, the department’s front-line firefighters are retiring at more than double the usual rate, according to fire officials. … Also retiring is Albert Turi Jr., who was the department’s chief of safety… And of late, the rate of departure has accelerated even more, with some 40 firefighters retiring every week on average. A year ago, 40 firefighters might have retired in a typical month.
    October 23, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110142 (pdf on the site), interview with FDNY deputy assistant chief Albert Turi: “The next thing I heard was Pete say what the fuck is this? And as my eyes traveled up the building, and I was looking at the south tower, somewhere about halfway up, my initial reaction was there was a secondary explosion, and the entire floor area, a ring right around the building blew out. I later realized that the building had started to collapse already and this was the air being compressed and that is the floor that let go.”
  2. Tyrone Johnson, one of three firemen catching a brake on 9/11, interviewed by a film crew and bystanders (Youtube) (FOIA release in December 2010, after a lawsuit): “[Fireman 1, a black man:] Yes it was. Definitely a secondary explosion. We were inside waiting to go upstairs and on our way upstairs the whole fuckin’ place blew. It just collapsed on everybody inside the lobby. I don’t know about the first one [tower coming down from a secondary explosion]. But the second one, it was terrible. And there was a third one after that one too. … It was like three explosions after that [after the plane crash]. We came in after the fire was going on already. We were in the staging area inside the building, waiting to go upstairs. … It can’t be more worse than this. You’re in the building, trying to help people, and it’s exploding on you inside the building.”
  3. Jimmy Grillo, one of three firemen catching a brake on 9/11, interviewed by a film crew and bystanders (Youtube) (FOIA release in December 2010, after a lawsuit): “People don’t understand. There may be more [bombs]. Anyone of these fucking buildings can blow up. This ain’t done yet. … We were in the lobby gathering to go up to start doing a search on the upper floors. As we were getting our gear on and making our way to the stairway, there was a heavy duty explosion and everybody just started running for the door. Everybody was trapped. Eventually when the dust lifted, I saw some light and started screaming for everybody to go out towards the light managed to get Tyrone out and a couple other guys…”
  4. Firefighter talking to Jimmy Grillo, who wants to start helping his trapped buddies again (Youtube) (FOIA release in December 2010): “Jimmy, don’t go too close, Jimmy. They’re still blowing up, Jimmy.”
  5. Fireman filmed in the WTC complex (Youtube): “There’s a bomb in the building. Start clearing out.”
  6. New York Fire Department official on the radio (Youtube): “I got an eyewitness who said there was an explosion on floors 7 and 8, 7, 8.”
  7. New York Fire Department Official on the radio (Youtube): “And we’ve got another explosion on the tower, 10-13, 10-13.”
  8. Fireman on the radio (Youtube): “Tower 2, I’ve just had a major explosion and what appears to be a complete collapse surrounding the entire area.”
  9. Dusty fireman interviewed on 9/11 (Youtube): “We never even really got that close to the building. An explosion blew and knocked everybody over.”
  10. September 12, 2001,, ‘United in Courage’: “Louie Cacchioli, 51, is a firefighter assigned to Engine 47 in Harlem: We were the first ones in the second tower after the plane struck. I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building. I had just asked another firefighter to stay with me, which was a good thing because we were trapped inside the elevator and he had the tools to get out.”
  11. Engine 7 fireman in the documentary ‘911 – the filmmakers’: “The lobby was about six stories high and the lobby looked as though a bomb had exploded there. It’s a … all the glass was taken out, there were 10 foot by 10 foot, a marble panels that were once walls that were loose from the wall of the Trade Center.” Could possibly be from the elevator falling down.
  12. Evalle Sweezer, office worker (Youtube): “The lobby was totally gone. … A woman with her face blown off [lay here] … As we were coming out, past the lobby, there was no lobby. So I believe the bomb hit the lobby first. And a couple of seconds later the first plane hit.” Not counted. The lobby may have been damaged that bad by the falling elevator.
  13. Engine 7 fireman in the documentary ‘911 – the filmmakers’: “I went around by the freight elevator and I could see it was just blown. 30th floor. We hear another … explosion. And at that time we heard a huge explosion.”
  14. A group of Engine 7 firemen in the documentary ‘911 – the filmmakers’:Fireman one: “We made it at least two blocks and we started running. Floor by floor it started popping out.” Fireman two: (makes sound and hand gestures to show how the floors popped out) “It is if they had detonators…” Fireman one:“Yeah! detonators…” Fireman two: “It is if they had planned to take down the building…boom…boom …boom…boom.” Fireman one: “Yeah…detonators…all the way down, I watching it and running.”
  15. Man in a New York Fire Department uniform states (Youtube): “… [we got?] so many people out, but then there were secondary explosions, and then the subsequent collapses.” (talks very fast and the first part is somewhat hard to hear)
  16. 2002, Dennis Smith, ‘Report from Ground Zero: The Story of the Rescue Efforts at the World Trade Center’, p. 18 (report of fireman Dennis Tardio):“I hear an explosion and I look up. It is as if the building is being imploded, from the top floor down, one after another, boom, boom, boom.”
  17. 2002, Susan Hagen and Mary Carouba, ‘Women at Ground Zero: Stories of Courage and Compassion’, pp. 65-66, 68 (account of army veteran and police officer Sue Keane): “[It] sounded like bombs going off. That’s when the explosions happened. … I knew something was going to happen. … It started to get dark, then all of a sudden there was this massive explosion. … [There was] another explosion [around the time the North Tower came down]. That sent me and the two firefighters down the stairs. … I can’t tell you how many times I got banged around. Each one of those explosions picked me up and threw me. … There was another explosion, and I got thrown with two firefighters out onto the street.””
  18. 2002, Cathy Trost and Alicia C. Shepard, foreword by Tom Brokaw, ‘Running Toward Danger – Stories Behind the Breaking News of 9/11’, p. 87:“John Bussey | Foreign Editor, The Wall Street Journal: … I heard this metallic roar, looked up and saw what I thought was a very peculiar sight of individual floors, one after the other exploding outward. I thought to myself, “My God, they’re going to bring the building down.” And they, whoever they are, had set charges. In fact, the building was imploding down. I saw the explosions, and I thought, “This is not a good place to be, because we’re too close to the building, and it’s too easy for the building to topple over.” So I went under the desk in the office where I sought shelter.” (Bussey gives no indication at a later point that he has came to a different conclusion)
  19. 2002, Chris Bull and Sam Erman, ‘At Ground Zero: 25 Stories From Young Reporters Who Were There’, p. 184: Beth Fertig, WNYC radio reporter and contributor to NPR“The Building came down so orderly, floor by floor, that I presumed it was a controlled demolition. I hoped that it was. Maybe they all got the people out and now they’re bringing the building down to prevent mass casualties.”
  20. 2002, Cathy Trost and Alicia C. Shepard, foreword by Tom Brokaw, ‘Running Toward Danger – Stories Behind the Breaking News of 9/11’, p. 203: “Beth Fertig | Reporter, WNYC Radio: I found out where the mayor was. He had gone to a secret location in midtown. … I spent the rest of the afternoon at the mayor’s command center. The reporters were trying to figure out what happened. We were thinking that bombs had brought the buildings down. The mayor talked to us and said he had no evidence of bombs.”
  21. September 17, 2001, Christian Science Monitor, ‘A Changed World’, page 2 of 9: “Tom Elliott was at work in his office at the Aon Corp., an insurance brokerage firm, on the 103rd floor of the World Trade Center’s other, south tower. … Elliott and two others headed down the building stairwell, a narrow beige corridor with a yellow stripe painted down the middle of concrete steps. They ran into a few other people as they descended, but there still hadn’t been any announcements, and the absence of other escapees was making them feel as if they had prematurely panicked. Then, as they reached the 70th floor, they heard an announcement: The building was secure. No one needed to evacuate. One woman in the small group said to Elliott, “Do you want to believe them? Let’s go!” They had descended three more floors when United Airlines Flight 175 slammed into their own south tower like an arrow from a giant crossbow [78th-84th floor]. It was 9:03 a.m. … Although its spectacularly televised impact was above Elliott, at first he and those around him thought an explosion had come from below. An incredible noise – he calls it an “exploding sound” – shook the building, and a tornado of hot air and smoke and ceiling tiles and bits of drywall came flying up the stairwell. “In front of me, the wall split from the bottom up,” he says. … In a flash of panic, people began fleeing higher into the building. Then a few men began working on the crowd, calming people down, saying that downstairs was the only way out. As they descended, a few other survivors stumbled into the corridor. A construction painter, his white T-shirt covered in blood, was helped downstairs by others. But the stairwell was still far from jammed with evacuees. Elliott assumed his was one of the final groups descending. They saw only two firemen going up. They told them there had been an explosion near the 60th floor.”
  22. 2002, Dean E. Murphy, ‘September 11: An Oral History’, pp. 9-15 (Teresa Veliz): “Teresa Veliz was a manager for a software development firm. She was on the 47th floor of the North Tower when American 11 struck. Veliz was able to reach the ground level at about the same time that the South Tower collapsed. Flung to the ground in total darkness, Veliz and a colleague followed another person who happened to have a flashlight. As she narrated later: “The flashlight led us into Borders bookstore, up an escalator, and out to Church Street. The explosions were going off everywhere. I was convinced that there were bombs planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons. I was afraid to go down Church Street towards Broadway, but I had to do it. I ended up on Vesey Street. There was another explosion. And another. I didn’t know which way to run.”
  23. Firefighter John Schroeder (Youtube): Apparently interviewed by the Loose Change crew. Said he was saved by Willy Rodriquez. Thinks bombs were in the building, just as his colleagues. Comes across as overly dramatic. Together with Rodriquez and Loose Change links… not going to cite.
  24. May 26, 2002, New York Times, ‘102 Minutes: Last Words at the Trade Center’: “Liz, this was a terrorist attack. I can hear explosions below me.” 
    (The above quote is attributed to Edmund McNally and supposedly was given in this New York Times article listed as source. However, McNally and his wife Liz appear in this article, but there’s absolutely no reference to explosions. So this portion has either been removed by the New York Times or it has been a mistake by the 9/11 Truth Movement. However, Scott Forbes of Fiduciary Trust said he knew this couple and the woman’s claims about explosions.)
  25. Fox Channel 5 News, live on 9/11. Smoke is emerging from the base of the South Tower (which has collapsed, unknown to the reporters): “[Narrator 1:] We just heard that there was another explosion in the basement on one of the lower levels of the World Trade Center. [Narrator 2:] It would seem from that picture there that you are right, Dave. … It certainly looks like an awful lot of smoke. … Now there seems to be coming a lot of smoke from the lower portion of the World Trade Center. And we had a report indicating that there was an explosion on the lower floors now.”
  26. Mat Meagher, reporter live on 9/11 (Youtube): “A big explosion has just occurred. Everyone is running from the financial district now. Smoke is filling the entire area. Let’s go! Stop shooting! Go!”
  27. NBC Live coverage when the South Tower collapses – which the reporter can’t see (Youtube): “We are not exactly sure what happened, but there was an explosion on the far side of one of the buildings from where we are standing. The reverberation! And another explosion on the right hand side!”
  28. Fox News, WCBS, Live during the first collapse (Youtube): “Suddenly, while talking to an officer, who was questioning me about my press credentials, we heard a very loud blast-explosion. We looked up and the building literally began to collapse before us. … People in the entire perimeter, including myself, literally began to run for our lives. … Not clear now is why this explosion took place. Was it because of the planes’ dual attack this morning, or was there some other attack of which there has been talk of on the street.”
  29. CBS 2, Live broadcast on 9/11 (Youtube): “CNN is now reporting that there was a third explosion at the World Trade Center. Probably an explosion from the ground that caused World Trade Center 1 [she meant 2] to collapse on top of itself. Again, there was a third explosion. It is unclear what caused it. Whether it was a bomb, or whether the first [she means second] plane that crashed into the tower had been booby-trapped with a bomb that was timed to explode later after the crash had occurred.”
  30. Narrator on CNBC live on 9/11 (Youtube): “This was clearly… The way the structure was collapsing… This was the result of something that was planned. It’s not accidental that the first tower just happened to collapse and that the second tower just happened to collapse in just the same way. How they accomplished this, we don’t know.”
  31. September 11, 2001, ABC News live coverage (Youtube): “[Reporter Don Dahler:] The second building that was hit by the plane has just completely collapsed. The entire building has just collapsed, as if a demolition team set it off, when you see the old demolitions of these old buildings, it folded down on itself, and it is not there any more. … [Anchor Peter Jennings:] The southern Tower … just collapsing on itself. … We have no idea what caused this. Anybody who has ever watched a building being demolished on purpose knows that if you are going to do it on purpose you have to get at the under-infrastructure of a building and bring it down.” … “[Don Dahler:] Peter, eh, what appeared to happen from my vantage point, the top part of the building was totally involved in fire. There appeared to be no effort possible to put that fire out. It looked like the top part of that building was so weakened by the fire that the weight of it collapsed the rest of the building. That’s what appeared to happen. I did not see anything happening at the base of the building. It all appeared to start at the top and then just collapsed the building by the sheer weight of the top. There was no explosion at the base part of it. But I did see that the top part of it started to collapse. The walls started to bulge out.”
  32. CNN anchor about the collapses that took place some time earlier: “It almost looks like one of those planned implosions, but of course there was nothing planned and it was not an implosion as you see.”
  33. September 11, 2001, Press Association, ‘Other blasts may have toppled towers’: “Simon Reeve, author of The New Jackals: Ramzi Yousef: Osama Bin Laden and The Future of Terrorism, said: “It is the worst terrorist attack in living history with an astonishing level of planning involved and co-ordination. “It will have involved months and probably years of planning. The terrorists could have been living in America for some time. “I cannot see how the World Trade Centre could have collapsed just on impact from the aircraft. “I suspect that there must have been ground level explosions in the buildings possibly involving enormous amounts of explosives or another type of device.” Mr Reeve speculated that the terrorist attacks were the work of Osama Bin Laden and his supporters. He said: “There is no doubt that America will look for the culprits and use force against them. If it is the work of Osama Bin Laden it is very likely that America will use overwhelming force against Afghanistan and Laden’s supporters.””
  34. September 11, 2001, Albuquerque Journal, ‘Explosives Planted In Towers, N.M. Tech Expert Says’: “Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday. The collapse of the buildings appears “too methodical” to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures, said Van Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. “My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse,” Romero said. Romero is a former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at Tech, which studies explosive materials and the effects of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other structures.”
  35. Immediately after the South Tower collapse, person videotaping the WTC from several miles away or a person standing next to him (Youtube): “I’m not going any closer. They had it wired for explosives obviously. Obviously there was a truck in there with explosives.”
  36. Ron Saladino, a WTC7 employee who moved out of the building soon after the first impact, interviewed live on CNN on 9/11 (Youtube): “I turned and looked around and the southern World Trade Center began to just buckle. About 50 consecutive bangs and it fell down like a waterfall.” (The reporter ignored this statement)
  37. Woman interviewed by the Reuters (aired by the BBC) live on 9/11 (Youtube): “Not much is being said about the people on the ground, but that was one hell of an explosion when the building collapsed. It appeared to collapse…”
  38. Witness live on the MSNBC News on 9/11 (Youtube): “I heard an explosion. At that point I got knocked out. I don’t remember anything. Then I got up. And I remember walking out. And it was just total darkness in the corridors. I was in a dentist’s office, because there were dentist’s chairs and tools. I looked out the windows ’cause the windows had exploded and the street below caved in. The whole street caved in. You could see below the street. And at that point there were like fireballs coming up. And I said, “alright, I’m not gonna make it.” I went back into the room I was in, shut the doors, put towels on the bottom of each door.”
  39. 2002, Cathy Trost and Alicia C. Shepard, foreword by Tom Brokaw, ‘Running Toward Danger – Stories Behind the Breaking News of 9/11’, p. 239: “Carol Marin | Contributor, CBS news editor: … I remember seeing this giant ball of fire come out of the earth as I heard this roar…” (She was very close to the North Tower when it collapsed. Hearing her full testimony it is not clear if the “fireball” was the dust cloud hitting the ground and growing from there or if it was a true fireball coming up from the ground. In various statements she did say that she heard the tower “blow” or “explode”.)
  40. Anne Thompson for NBC, live on 9/11 (Youtube): “As soon as I got outside I heard a second explosion and another rumble. … The chandeliers shook. Again black smoke filled the air. Within five minutes we were covered again with more soot and more dust. And then a fire marshal came and said we had to leave, because if there was a third explosion this building might not last.”
  41. Unknown witness who was going down the stairwell of WTC 1 when WTC 2 collapsed (video not available anymore): “…and all of a sudden this huge cloud of dark gray smoke comes shooting up the stairway … and it was hot – very, very hot.”
  42. Brad Waite, cameraman interviewed on 9/11, FOIA (Youtube): “First we heard the explosions. Started shooting in the Twin Towers. We could see tons of debris coming down. And then it sounded like another explosion to the right of that which I believe was the front, which was once the Marriott, just totally gone.
  43. A black woman, covered in soot, interviewed by ABC (Youtube): “We saw a shadow which looked like a plane. Next thing we know it’s boom, boom and the floors started shaking. And then we saw debris fall down. And the next thing we know we had to get out of the building. We stuck on the stairs for a while. We finally got down to the lobby [from 82th floor of WTC1]. And then there was this big explosion. I don’t know what it was. Just a cloud like what you just saw. … That’s what we went through before we came out of the building. Then when we get out of the building then another smoke cloud came.”
  44. Witness 1 from a Youtube video (a considerable time after 9/11, so maybe not the most reliable): “The thing that got me suspicious was when I saw the replay of everything the next week and the weeks after, they took the explosions out. That’s when I knew something was up. And the detonations that took both buildings down were exactly identical. First it started off with about – I’m just guessing – six or seven seconds of this very low frequency rumble. Then the detonations started. And they went boom! Boom! Boom! A little less than a second apart. … It was the exact, exact same series of detonations [with the second collapse] … I could tell you that the air pressure changed. It was like being in a submarine 300 feet below the surface.” Not counted.
  45. Witness 2 from a Youtube video (a considerable time after 9/11): “As the first tower came down there were a series of explosions. It was like boom! Boom! You could hear the echos of the explosions echoing off the different buildings.”
  46. Witness interviewed live on 9/11 (Youtube): “Then somebody said that they saw an airliner go into one of the towers. Then, I don’t know, an hour later than that, we had that big explosion from much, much lower [appears mystified]. I still don’t know what on earth caused that.”
  47. Reporter for CNN live on 9/11: “We’ve heard reports of secondary explosions after the aircraft impacted, whether or not there was something else at the base of the towers, that in fact were the coup de grace to bring them to the ground.”
  48. Witness to CNN live on 9/11 (Youtube): “It just went baboom, just like a bomb went off. … We were finally getting to the bottom, we were coming out … and another explosion. It sent everyone flying.”
  49. Witness on a hospital bed in a clip that reads ‘America Responds’, filmed on 9/11 (Youtube): “And all of a sudden it sounded like gunfire — you know, bang bang bang bang bang — then all of a sudden three big explosions.”
  50. Witness on an unknown TV show (Youtube): “I was about five blocks away when I heard explosions — three thuds — and turned around to see the building we just got out of tend to tip over and fold in on itself.”
  51. 9/11 cop on ABC (Youtube): “There were numerous secondary explosions taking place in that building [Twin Towers]. There were continuous explosions.”
  52. September 11, 2001, New York Times, ‘Thousands Feared Dead as World Trade Center Is Toppled’, p. 3 of 4: “Closer to the World Trade Center, Ross Milanytch described seeing “small explosions on each floor.”” Also see next article.
  53. September 12, 2001, New York Times, ”U.S. Attacked’: “Police officers warned people in the vicinity to move north, that the buildings could fall, but most people found that unthinkable. They stayed put or gravitated closer. Abruptly, there was an ear-splitting noise. The south tower shook, seemed to list in one direction and them began to come down, imploding upon itself. It looked like a demolition,” said Andy Pollock. It started exploding,” said Ross Milanytch, 57, who works at nearby Chase Manhattan Bank. “It was about the 70th floor. And each second another floor exploded out for about eight floors, before the cloud obscured it all.” … People started walking briskly north until the premonition became real — another horrifying eruption, as one floor after another seemed to detonate. … Ross Milanytch: ‘The dust was about an inch and a half thick on the ground.'” (
  54. September 11, 2001, BBC, ‘Eyewitnesses tell of horror’: “There was smoke everywhere. I heard the bomb and saw both buildings crumble like biscuits,” Ms Keller said.”
  55. November 17, 2005, Christopher Bollyn of American Free Press (granted, not the most reliable source; then again, flashes have been reported by a few other witnesses and undoubtedly is a very sensitive subject), ‘Scientist Supports 9-11 Demolition Theory’: “This is consistent with an eyewitness account given to me shortly after 9-11. The eyewitness was standing on Church Street looking at the South Tower when he observed “a number of brief light sources being emitted from inside the building between floors 10 and 15.” The emissions of light were accompanied by “a crackling sound,” and occurred immediately before the tower collapsed, the witness said.”
  56. Neil deGrasse Tyson on the website of the Planetary Society, of which he was vice-president (put up an email dated September 12, 2001): “I hear a second explosion in WTC2, then a loud, low-frequency rumble that precipitates the unthinkable — a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion. … I hear another explosion followed by a now all-too familiar rumble that signaled the collapse of WTC1. … I saw the iconic antenna on this building descend straight down in an implosion twinning the first.” (used to be located at:
  57. An account of an anonymous (and very religious) person that appeared on the internet: “So they escorted us thru the exit of World Trade 2 and I had just reached the revolving door of the building that I heard a loud explosion and the whole building collapsed.”
  58. December 6, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110253 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Richard Banaciski: “We were there I don’t know, maybe 10, 15 minutes and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions.”
  59. Unknown firefighter, soon after the South Tower collapse, pushing people away from the North Tower (NIST FOIA: Release 10, WTCI-329-I-#5, Youtube): “We are walking back, because the building is about to blow up. Moving back. Flames. Debris coming down.”
  60. January 17, 2002, New York Times, file no. 9110501 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Thomas Turilli: “[The collapse] almost actually that day sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight, and then just a huge wind gust… I looked to my left and actually I noticed the tower was down. I didn’t even know that it was when we were in there. It just seemed like a huge explosion. “
  61. October 10, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110035 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Daniel Rivera: “It was a frigging noise. At first I thought it was — do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear “pop, pop, pop, pop, pop”? That’s exactly what — because I thought it was that. When I heard that frigging noise, that’s when I saw the building coming down.”
  62. Firefighter Angel Rivera (Youtube audio): “When we hit the 19th floor something horrendous happened. It was like a bomb went off. We thought we were dead. The whole building shook. The door to the hallway into the hotel blew off like somebody threw it all over the place. We were thrown on the floor. The building was still shaking and we’re still hearing explosions going on everywhere. So we decided, “let’s get out of here”.”
  63. December 10, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110290 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Kenneth Rogers: “Meanwhile we were standing there with about five companies and we were just waiting for our assignment and then there was an explosion in the south tower, which, according to this map, this exposure just blew out the flames. A lot of guys left at that point. I kept watching. Floor after floor after floor. One floor under another after another and when it hit about the fifth floor, I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing. I was there in ’93.”
  64. January 10, 2002, New York Times, file no. 9110439 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Stephen Viola: “… that’s when the south tower collapsed, and it sounded like a bunch of explosions. You heard like loud booms, but I guess it was all just stuff coming down, and then we got covered with rubble and dust, and I thought we’d actually fallen through the floor…”
  65. November 7, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110192 (pdf on the site), interview with EMS captain Karin Deshore: “Whatever this explosion [the collapse] was simply sucked all the oxygen out of the air. … Somewhere around the middle of the world trade center, there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building. I went inside and I told everybody that the other building or there was an explosion occurring up there and I said I think we have another major explosion.”
  66. December 10, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110285 (pdf on the site), interview with Engine 47 lieutenant William Wall: “At that time, we heard an explosion. We looked up and the building was coming down right on top of us, so we ran up West Street. … Oh, when we came out of the building and we were walking across West Street when we first got out of the building, we’re walking across the street and all you heard was like bombs going off above your head. You couldn’t see it. It was just cloudy. And we found out later it was the military jets. That was an eerie sound. You couldn’t see it and all you heard was like a “boom” and it just kept going. We couldn’t see 50 feet above our head because of the dust. So we didn’t know if it was bombs going off or whatever, but we didn’t want to stay there. “
  67. October 3, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110008 (pdf on the site), interview with NYFD assistant commissioner Stephen Gregory: “I know I was with an officer from Ladder 146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me up a couple of days later just to find out how I was. We both for whatever reason — again, I don’t know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought… I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down. … No [the flashes were not near the fire], the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That’s what I thought I saw. And I didn’t broach the topic to him, but he asked me. He said I don’t know if I’m crazy, but I just wanted to ask you because you were standing right next to me. He said did you see anything by the building? And I said what do you mean by see anything? He said did you see any flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them, too… it’s just strange that two people sort of say the same thing and neither one of us talked to each other about it. … I know about the explosion on the upper floors. This was like eye level. I didn’t have to go like this. Because I was looking this way. I’m not going to say it was on the first floor or the second floor, but somewhere in that area I saw to me what appeared to be flashes. I don’t know how far down this was already. I mean, we had heard the noise but, you know, I don’t know.”
  68. January 22, 2002, New York Times, file no. 9110505 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Craig Carlsen: “I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. At the time I didn’t realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit. … You did hear the explosions [when the North Tower came down]. … The second one coming down, you knew the explosions. Now you’re very familiar with it.”
  69. November 9, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110205 (pdf on the site), interview with FDNY captain Michael Donovan: “Anyway, with that I was listening, and there was an incredibly loud rumbling. I never got to look up. People started running for the entrances to the parking garages. They started running for the entrances. I started running without ever looking up. The roar became tremendous. I fell on the way to the parking garages. Debris was starting to fall all around me. I got up, I got into the parking garages, was knocked down by the percussion. I thought there had been an explosion or a bomb that they had blown up there. The Vista International Hotel was my first impression, that they had blown it up. I never got to see the World Trade Center coming down.”
  70. October 9, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110017 (pdf on the site), interview with FDNY lieutenant Gregg Hansson: “Then a large explosion took place. In my estimation that was the tower coming down, but at that time I did not know what that was. I thought some type of bomb had gone off. I was, I believe, ahead of the rest of the firefighters and officers there. I made it to the corner, and I took about four running steps this way when you could feel the rush of the wind coming at you.”
  71. December 26, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110386 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Timothy Julian: “We came out from 90 West, made a left, headed east, and right when we got to the corner of Washington and Albany, that’s when I heard the building collapse. First I thought it was an explosion. I thought maybe there was bomb on the plane, but delayed type of thing, you know secondary device. … You know, and I just heard like an explosion and then cracking type of noise, and then it sounded like a freight train, rumbling and picking up speed, and I remember I looked up, and I saw it coming down.”
  72. December 3, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110216 (pdf on the site), interview with FDNY safety command chief Art Lakiotes: “Tower one now comes down. Same thing but this time some of us take off straight down West Street, because we realized later on, subconsciously we wanted to be near buildings. We all thought it was secondary explosives or more planes or whatever.”
  73. December 12, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110319 (pdf on the site), interview with Ladder 22 firefighter John Malley: “We were walking into darkness. As we walked through those revolving doors [of the South Tower], that’s when we felt the rumble. I felt the rumbling, and then I felt the force coming at me. I was like, what the hell is that? In my mind it was a bomb going off. The pressure got so great, I stepped back behind the columns separating the revolving doors. Then the force just blew past me. It blew past me it seemed for a long time. In my mind I was saying what the hell is this and when is it going to stop? Then it finally stopped, that pressure which I thought was a concussion of an explosion. It turns out it was the down pressure wind of the floors collapsing on top of each other. At that point everything went black, and then the collapse came. It just rained on top of us. Everything came. It rained debris forever.”
  74. October 16 , 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110098 (pdf on the site), interview with FDNY assistant commissioner James Drury: “We were in the process of getting some rigs moved when I turned, as I heard a tremendous roar, explosion, and saw that the first of the two towers was starting to come down. … When the dust started to settle, I headed back down towards the World Trade Center and I guess I came close to arriving at the corner of Vesey and West again where we started to hear the second roar. That was the north tower now coming down. I should say that people in the street and myself included thought that the roar was so loud that the explosive – bombs were going off inside the building. Obviously we were later proved wrong. … The sight of the jumpers was horrible and the turning around and seeing that first tower come down was unbelievable. The sound it made. As I said I thought the terrorists planted explosives somewhere in the building. That’s how loud it was, crackling explosive, a wall.”
  75. October 1, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110001 (pdf on the site), interview with FDNY deputy commissioner for administration Thomas Fitzpatrick: “Then the building started to come down. My initial reaction was that this was exactly the way it looks when they show you those implosions on TV. I would have to say for three or four seconds anyway, maybe longer. I was just watching.”
  76. January 9, 2002, New York Times, file no. 9110434 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Kevin Gorman: “As he was standing there, [the police officer] said, “Aviation just reported that the north tower is leaning.” I said, “Which way is it leaning?” He said,”This way.” So we started to turn around walking. John Malley, who was right behind me, I turned around for him, because he was doing something, either putting his coat on or something, and as I was looking at him I heard the explosion, looked up, and saw like three floors explode, saw the antenna coming down, and turned around and ran north. … Within 30 seconds [of hearing that the tower was leaning did I hear the explosions].”
  77. October 12, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110065 (pdf on the site), interview with FDNY lieutenant Thomas Fitzpatrick: “I looked up, and the building exploded, the building that we were very close to, which was one tower. The whole top came off like a volcano. … So now both towers have been hit by a plane. The north tower was burning. So the explosion, what I realized later, had to be the start of the collapse. It was the way the building appeared to blowout from both sides. I’m looking at the face of it, and all we see is the two sides of the building just blowing out and coming apart like this, as I said, like the top of a volcano.”
  78. October 25, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110166 (pdf on the site), interview with battalion chief Brian Dixon: “I was watching the fire, watching the people jump and hearing a noise and looking up and seeing — it actually looked — the lowest floor of fire in the south tower actually looked like someone had planted explosives around it because the whole bottom I could see — I could see two sides of it and the other side — it just looked like that floor blew out. I looked up and you could actually see everything blew out on the one floor. I thought, geez, this looks like an explosion up there, it blew out. Then I guess in some sense of time we looked at it and realized, no, actually it just collapsed. That’s what blew out the windows, not that there was an explosion there but that windows blew out. The realization hit that it’s going to fall down, the top’s coming off. I was still thinking — there was never a thought that this whole thing is coming down. I thought that that blew out and stuff is starting to fly down. The top is going to topple off there.”
  79. December 5, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110238 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Keith Murphy: “We came through what was a revolving door and it brings you into the North Tower. … There was tremendous damage in the lobby. There was already things that were fallen or cracked, a lot of structural wall damage and ceiling damage that you could see. There was also about four or five inches of water on the floor. … At the end of this elevator lobby there was, it looked to me like something had exploded. I don’t remember how I heard it or who said it, but someone said I think an elevator – when the plane hit it severed the elevator cable and it came down and crashed. I don’t know hundred percent if that’s what happened, but it looked to me like that could have been true. It looked like something had fallen down, hit and exploded out. I mean the whole area around it was maybe 25, 30 feet of really severe damage. … We are standing there and the first thing that happened, which I still think is strange to me, the lights went out. Completely pitch black. Since we are in that core little area of the building, there is no natural light. No nothing, I didn’t see a thing. Right before the lights went out, I had heard a distant boom, boom, boom, sounded like three explosions. I don’t know what it was at the time. I would have said they sounded like bombs, but it was boom, boom, boom and then the lights all go out. I would say about 3, 4 seconds, all of a sudden this tremendous roar. It sounded like being in a tunnel with the train coming at you. All of a sudden I could feel the floor started to shake and sway. We were being thrown like literally off our feet, side to side, getting banged around and then a tremendous wind started to happen. It probably lasted maybe 15 seconds – 10 to 15 seconds. It seemed like hurricane force wind. It would blow you off your feet.”
  80. December 11, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110288 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter William Reynolds: “I said, ‘Chief, they’re evacuating the other building [WTC 1], right?’ He said, ‘No.’ … I said, ‘Why not? They blew up the other one.’ I thought they blew it up with a bomb. I said, ‘If they blew up the one, you know they’re gonna blow up the other one.'”
  81. October 9, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110020 (pdf on the site), interview with Ladder 18 firefighter Kevin Murray: “When the tower started — there was a big explosion that I heard and someone screamed that it was coming down and I looked away and I saw all the windows domino — you know, dominoeing up and then come down.”
  82. October 10, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110030 (pdf on the site), interview with EMS lieutenant Patrick Scaringello: “I started to treat patients on my own when I heard the explosion from up above. I looked up, I saw smoke and flame and then I saw the top tower tilt, start to twist and lean. … I was assisting in pulling more people out from debris, when I heard the second tower explode.”
  83. October 3, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110003 (pdf on the site), interview with EMS division chief Mark Steffens: “[When driving on West Street and one of the towers was collapsing] That’s when we heard this massive explosion and I saw this thing rolling towards us. It looked like a fireball and then thick, thick black smoke.”
  84. November 7, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110193 (pdf on the site), interview with EMS operations captain Janice Olszewski: “I didn’t know if it was an explosion. I didn’t know it was a collapse at that point. I thought it was an explosion or a secondary device, a bomb, the jet — plane exploding, whatever.”
  85. October 17, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110101 (pdf on the site), interview with EMS paramedic Neil Sweeting: “You heard a big boom, it was quiet for about ten seconds. Then you could hear another one. Now I realize it was the floors starting to stack on top of each other as they were falling. It was spaced apart in the beginning, but then it got to just a tremendous roar and a rumble that I will never forget.”
  86. October 30, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110172 (pdf on the site), interview with EMS captain Jay Swithers: “I took a quick glance at the building and while I didn’t see it falling, I saw a large section of it blasting out, which led me to believe it was just an explosion. I thought it was a secondary device, but I knew that we had to go.”
  87. October 25, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110156 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT David Timothy: “The next thing I knew, you started hearing more explosions. I guess this is when the second tower started coming down.”
  88. November 7, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110198 (pdf on the site), interview with battalion chief John Sudnik: “The best I can remember, we were just operating there, trying to help out and do the best we could. Then we heard a loud explosion or what sounded like a loud explosion and looked up and I saw tower two start coming down. Crazy.”
  89. North Tower collapse witness Paul Lemos interviewed live on 9/11 (Youtube): “All of a sudden I looked up and twenty stories below … the fire I saw, from the corner, boom! Boom! Boom! Booboobooboom! [uses his hands to show how the floors were popping out] Just like 20 straight hits. It just went down. And then I saw the whole building just [go] down. And as the bombs were going people just started running. I sat there and just watched. A few of them exploded and at that point I just started running for my life. [interviewer: “Because the top tipped over…”] No no no! It went straight down. Now, they told me afterwards it wasn’t explosions. I was talking to one of the architects that they pulled in, because he was talking to me about it. He said, “What did you see?” I said I saw the fire and when I looked up … and I could see the corner and it just started going pop! Boom! Boom!”
  90. (Skeptic) Gravy on about the statements of Paul Isaac Jr., FDNY Auxiliary Fire Lieutenant ( for a long time floated false quotations attributed to him): “So the true statement was that I heard explosions – not bombs – as I couldn’t tell what the sounds were, as I was blocks away and can not confirm what the noise was. As I was approaching City Hall, the North Tower began the collapse. I heard what sounded like thunder just prior to the collapse, then the popping as the tower fell. I had my radio scanner and there were reports of explosions within the complex over the PD and PAPD frequencies. As I made my way closer, I could pick up on the FD Handie Talkie frequencies and it sounded like hell. No one knew what was going to happen next, but when the second tower began its fall there were what sounded like loud popping coming from the tower as well as a sucking sound like reverse air pressure.”
  91. September 11, BBC, ‘Eyewitnesses tell of horror’: “AP reporter Dunstan Prial said he heard a sucking sound just before the first building collapsed.”
  92. September 12, 2001, Los Angeles Times, ‘America Attacked’: “There were reports of an explosion right before the tower fell, then a strange sucking sound, and finally the sound of floors collapsing. Then came a huge surge of air, followed by a vast cloud of dirt, smoke, dust, paper and debris. Windows shattered. People screamed and dived for cover…Not long afterward, at 10:30 a.m., the second tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The top of the building exploded with smoke and dust. There were no flames, just an explosion of debris, and then more vast clouds swept down to the streets. People were knocked to the ground on their faces as they ran from the building.”
  93. January 23, 2002, New York Times, file no. 9110486 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT James McKinley: “So we get back over to 222 Broadway [about 200 yards from the WTC complex] and we get inside and I’m telling everybody: ‘Listen, … we’re going to get out of here because tower 1 is going to come down [too]. … As we’re walking to the back of the building … We start walking back there and then I heard a ground level explosion and I’m like holy shit, and then you heard that twisting metal wreckage again.”
  94. November 1, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110184 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT Gregg Brady: “We were standing underneath and Captain Stone was speaking again. We heard — I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now, 1 World Trade Center. … At that time, when I heard the 3 loud explosions, I started running west on Vesey Street towards the water.”
  95. October 25, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110162 (pdf on the site), interview with paramedic Kevin Darnowski: “At that time I started walking back up towards Vesey Street. I heard three explosions, and then we heard like groaning and grinding, and tower two [the South Tower] started to come down.”
  96. November 1, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110183 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT Orlando Martinez: “There was an explosion and after we started running…”
  97. November 28, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110213 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT Linda McCarthy: “I thought the plane was exploding, or another plane hit. I had no idea it was coming down…”
  98. October 21, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110072 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT James McKinley: “After that I heard this huge explosion, I thought it was a boiler exploding or something. Next thing you know this huge cloud of smoke is coming at us, so we’re running. … They said that the Air Force shot one down in Pennsylvania. But they later found out that they had a struggle [crash happened at 10:06]. At this point, something happened. I think we heard some explosions or something [North Tower collapse was on 10:28], so the dispatcher starts telling us to go up to 23rd street and Chelsea Piers. My partner’s like maybe it’s gas or something, not just explosive gas. Not like Con Edison gas but like sarin gas or something like that.”
  99. November 9, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110202 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT Julio Marrero: “I was screaming from the top of my lungs, and I must have been about ten feet away from her and she couldn’t even hear me, because the building was so loud, the explosion, that she couldn’t even hear me.”
  100. October 10, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110037 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT Juan Rios: “I didn’t know if it was an explosion. I didn’t know it was a collapse at that point. I thought it was an explosion or a secondary device, a bomb, the jet — plane exploding, whatever.

28 thoughts on “WTC 1-2: Reports of explosions after impact and during collapses

  1. The reports above have been reposted from this link:

    9/11: The World Trade Center Collapses
    Part 1: Scientific Evidence and 200+ Mainstream Testimonies Virtually Prove Buildings Brought Down With Thermate and Explosives
    Joël v.d. Reijden | December 10, 2012 |
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    DISCLAIMER: `I do not agree with the opinions expressed in the prologue to the list of testimonies. I am only interested in the testimonies themselves. I am posting only the first 100 from the original site, and if you want to see those the link is above in this comment.
    \\][// – Willy Whitten aka HybridRogue1

  2. September 12, 2001, Guardian, ”Everyone was screaming, crying, running. It’s like a war zone”: “In New York, police and fire officials were carrying out the first wave of evacuations when the first of the World Trade Centre towers collapsed. Some eyewitnesses reported hearing another explosion just before the structure crumbled.

    Police said that it looked almost like a “planned implosion” designed to catch bystanders watching from the street.”


  3. FOX 5 News anchor live at 10 AM as the first tower collapses: “There is an explosion at the base of the building … white smoke from the bottom … something has happened at the base of the building.”

    “We are standing there and the first thing that happened, which I still think is strange to me, the lights went out. Completely pitch black. Since we are in that core little area of the building, there is no natural light. No nothing, I didn’t see a thing. Right before the lights went out, I had heard a distant boom, boom, boom, sounded like three explosions. I don’t know what it was at the time. I would have said they sounded like bombs, but it was boom, boom, boom and then the lights all go out. I would say about 3, 4 seconds, all of a sudden this tremendous roar. It sounded like being in a tunnel with the train coming at you. All of a sudden I could feel the floor started to shake and sway. We were being thrown like literally off our feet, side to side, getting banged around and then a tremendous wind started to happen. It probably lasted maybe 15 seconds – 10 to 15 seconds. It seemed like hurricane force wind. It would blow you off your feet.”
    –December 5, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110238 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Keith Murphy
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    The sucking sounds from other testimony, plus this last part here from Mr Murphy about the wind, certainly would indicate an implosion, which is a mechanism of a controlled demolition.


  4. Cacchioli talked about his experiences immediately after 9/11, reported by (see no. 10):
    As he made his way up [the North Tower] along with men from Engine Co. 21, 22 and Ladder Co. 13, the doors opened on the 24th floor, a scene again that hardly made sense to the seasoned fireman, claiming the heavy dust and haze of smoke he encountered was unusual considering the location of the strike. “Tommy Hedsal was with me and everybody else also gets out of the elevator when it stops on the 24th floor,” said Cacchioli, “There was a huge amount of smoke. Tommy and I had to go back down the elevator for tools and no sooner did the elevators close behind us, we heard this huge explosion that sounded like a bomb. It was such a loud noise, it knocked off the lights and stalled the elevator. “Luckily, we weren’t caught between floors and were able to pry open the doors. People were going crazy, yelling and screaming. And all the time, I am crawling low and making my way in the dark with a flashlight to the staircase and thinking Tommy is right behind me. “I somehow got into the stairwell and there were more people there. When I began to try and direct down, another huge explosion like the first one hits. This one hits about two minutes later, although it’s hard to tell, but I’m thinking, ‘Oh. My God, these bastards put bombs in here like they did in 1993!’ “But still it never crossed my mind the building was going to collapse. I really only had two things on my mind and that was getting people out and saving lives. That’s what I was trained for and that’s what I was going to do. “I remember at that point in the stairwell between the 23rd and 24th floor, I threw myself down on the steps because of the smoke. It was pitch black, I had my mask on and I was crawling down the steps until I found the door on the 23rd floor.” When Cacchioli entered the 23rd floor, he found a “little man” holding a handkerchief in front of his face and hiding under the standpipes on the wall, used for pumping water on the floor in case of fire. Leading the man by the arm, he then ran into a group down the hall of about 35 to 40 people, finding his way down the 23rd floor stairwell and beginning their descent to safety. “Then as soon as we get in the stairwell, I hear another huge explosion like the other two. Then I heard bang, bang, bang – huge bangs – and surmised later it was the floors pan caking on top of one another. “I knew we had to get out of there fast and on the 12th floor a man even jumped on my back because he thought he couldn’t make it any farther. Everybody was shocked and dazed and it was a miracle all of us got this far.” When the group led by Cacchioli finally made it to the lobby level, he was unable to open the door at first, the concussion of the explosions or perhaps the south tower falling, jamming the lobby door. Finally jarring it loose, the group entered the lobby finding total devastation with windows blown out and marble falling form the walls, but strangely no people. At that point, it was either left or right to an exit, Cacchioli, the man he originally found by the standpipes and another lady going right while the others went left, a move which by the grace of God saved his life. “It seemed like every move I made that morning was the right move,” said Cacchioli. “I should have been killed at least five times. The people that went left didn’t make it out, but we came out alive on West Street.” After making sure the two civilians were attended to, Cacchioli went to his fire truck finding Lance, the driver, who was attending to the truck and waiting for the crew to return. Looking up at the north tower directly above, Cacchioli recalls not having the slightest idea when he exited that the south tower had already collapsed. He also remembers wondering about the fate of his crew members, the driver telling him two were missing and two others injured and already taken to the hospital. “Next thing, we look up and see the tower collapsing. We saw it starting to come down fast, Lance running towards the water to safety and I headed down West Side Highway.” … Cacchioli was called to testify privately, but walked out on several members of the committee before they finished, feeling like he was being interrogated and cross-examined rather than simply allowed to tell the truth about what occurred in the north tower on 9/11. “My story was never mentioned in the final report and I felt like I was being put on trial in a court room,” said Cacchioli. “I finally walked out. They were trying to twist my words and make the story fit only what they wanted to hear. All I wanted to do was tell the truth and when they wouldn’t let me do that, I walked out. “It was a disgrace to everyone, the victims and the family members who lost loved ones. I don’t agree with the 9/11 Commission. The whole experience was terrible.” … Asked if he ever was pressured to keep quiet about his 9/11 experience, he added: “Nobody has bothered me. I don’t think I should be bothered. I know what happened that day and I know the whole truth hasn’t come out yet. I have my own conscience, my own mind and no one, I mean no one, is going to force Lou Cacchioli to say something that didn’t happen and wasn’t the truth.”
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    This is clearly testimony that bolsters the case for explosive demolition.
    How anyone might surmise that these explosions were nuclear, and how Mr Cacchioli and his companions suffered no radiation effects, despite being in intimate proximity of those explosions; is beyond me.


  5. December 6, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110251 (pdf on the site), interview with firefighter Edward Cachia: “As my officer and I were looking at the south tower, it just gave. It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit, because we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down.”

    December 4, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110224 (pdf on the site), interview with Ladder 11 firefighter Frank Campagna: “That’s when [the North Tower] went. I looked back. You see three explosions and then the whole thing coming down. I turned my head and everybody was scattering.”

    October 31, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110179 (pdf on the site), interview with New York Fire Department chief Frank Cruthers: “And while I was still in that immediate area, the south tower, 2 World Trade Center, there was what appeared to be at first an explosion. It appeared at the very top, simultaneously from all four sides, materials shot out horizontally. And then there seemed to be a momentary delay before you could see the beginning of the collapse.”


  6. January 23, 2002, New York Times, file no. 9110486 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT Jason Charles: “I grabbed her and the Lieutenant picked her up by the legs and we start walking over slowly to the curb, and then I heard an explosion from up, from up above … then I turned around and looked up and that’s when I saw the tower coming down. … [With the North Tower:] We start walking back there and then I heard a ground level explosion and I’m like holy shit, and then you heard that twisting metal wreckage again.”

    October 16, 2001, New York Times, file no. 9110093 (pdf on the site), interview with EMT Michael Ober: “Then we heard a rumble, some twisting metal, we looked up in the air, and to be totally honest, at first, I don’t know exactly — but it looked to me just like an explosion. It didn’t look like the building was coming down, it looked like just one floor had blown completely outside of it. I was sitting there looking at it. I just never thought they would ever come down, so I didn’t think they were coming down.”


  7. “Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building.”~Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, 22, 2010


  8. “I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, told me they weren’t sure if they were able to contain the fire. I said, “You know, we’ve had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull it.” And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.”~Larry Silverstein — September 2002 PBS documentary America Rebuilds


  9. Debating whether nukes were used at WTC on 9/11 is rather like debating whether Martians actually attacked Earth in 1938, during Orson Welles’ broadcast of War Of The Worlds.


    • I never bought into the WTC nukes fantasy. It’s a pitiful distraction from the obvious conclusions about who did what and why. You can find people saying Fukushima no. 3 was also a nuclear explosion, but it is merely the opinion of people who have never studied actual nuclear weapons’ explosions and their signatures. So far the smallest nuclear weapon exploded had a fatal blast radius much larger than was seen at Daiichi. Check it out, it was the last atmospheric nuclear test, witnessed by RFK. The Kennedys ended atmospheric nuclear testing. In NYC, the sequential popping of the floor slabs’ detonations going down the building is clearly controlled demolition with standard explosives, not some imaginery mini nuke scheme which otherwise has never been seen.
      A tip of the hat to Rogue who has steadfastly argued against the nuke BS.
      I never liked the attitude of the WTC nuke theorists either, so bossy toward skepticism, as if they could not allow reasonable doubts at all. They talk down to sensible people, astounding behavior, considering their stupidity.
      If bloggers have not figured it out already, there is alot of BS out there undermining serious investigation.
      About what we would expect.

  10. I have a diploma from high school because “education” is compulsory in Amerika. I learned more for myself in the first few years out of the system than I had learned in the first 12 years in it.

    The only thing I really learned in school was to sit-down and shut-up at the ring of a bell. Very Skinnerian conditioning.

    HG Wells obviously grasped the psychology of this when he wrote THE TIME MACHINE, wherein the Eloy would go into trance at the sound of the air-raid sirens and march obediently into the underground ‘bunkers’. Maybe that is where Skinner actually got his idea.

    A person holding a PhD is simply more conditioned and brainwashed by the system. Especially those who let the diploma stand in for reasoned debate. Which happens more often in not – even if only subconsciously.


    • Will, I hear ya bout those Ph.D’s. My own brother is one and he will have none of this 9/11 conspiracy theory. Not one word. Getting nowhere with an ‘authority’ puts it all in perspective what monoliths we savvy rascals are up against. We can argue with those guys till the cows come home, and they will never wake up. But it’s OK, because I dint really want em on my cloud.

      Here’s one for the Rogue to dissect, from a Ph.D, David Duke, that actually is pretty good work.

      It does make sense if you was a rabbi who corralled the chosen ones into inbreeding with the tribe only, you would wind up with alot of Talmudic neuroses, and the inbreed would be like what Duke said, a rassa or race. I give Dr. Duke credit for his thesis. He halfway redeems Ph.D’s, but as another high school degree holder, I still have to say, we have the edge on these guys, just for the splendor of our meditations, uninterrupted since the wayback, just like the Rastas say..
      I been in and out of it, what the hell is new.

      • “Now there is something very interesting and it’s again the first time I’m saying it. The left is devastated by David Duke for instance. He was in the KKK when he was young. But here is something quite amazing: I read him and I was shocked to find out that this guy knows more about Jewish identity than I do! How could a supposedly ‘racist’ Gentile who probably never entered a synagogue knows more than I do about Judaism? The reason is in fact very simple : he is a proud white man. He’s interested in nationalism, in the culture of his own people, so he understands things that I am not even allowed to think about. Believe it or not, even as a Jew, I wasn’t allowed to think of myself as a racist. I was a racist, maybe I am still one, but I was not allowed to acknowledge it. Once he acknowledges that he’s talking about white people’s rights, in a way he thinks like Avigdor Lieberma ! But in fact, he is way better than Liberman. David Duke is a humanist because he says, «I want to celebrate my right and you should celebrate your rights» whether you are Muslim or black or whatever. He believes that all people should celebrate their rights, this is his current philosophy. Avidgor Liberman is not a humanist, because he wants to celebrate his rights at the expense of other people.”
        -Gilad Atzmon 4/27/14

  11. Hi Jack,

    I haven’t been to this thread in quite some time now. Been going at it heavy with the Maxitwat again about his nuclear/DEW twaddle.

    But I have to chime in and say that Gilad Atzmon is one of my favorite writers on the web today. Very insightful stuff from a lucid mind.


  12. Compilation of views of WTC7. The collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC7), a building with localized fires and not hit by a plane, is one of the most telling events of the day. Yet it has rarely been shown on T.V. since the first-day reporting. A significant fraction of the American public has not seen Building 7’s collapse. Please watch this short video (compiled by Nate Flach) before continuing into this site.

    This web site is a joint effort by David Chandler (retired physics teacher), Jonathan Cole (professional engineer), and Nathan Flach (video archivist). We are all independent 9/11 researchers, and affiliated with Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Our goal has been to uncover the truth and shed some light on the events of 9/11, each in our own way.

    David’s work has been primarily video measurement and analysis of the physics, to come to an understanding of the true nature of the building collapses on 9/11 (see video collection here).

    Jonathan’s work is primarily experimental, testing the claims and counter-claims that rage in the 9/11 debate (see video collection here).

    We recently invited Nathan Flach to join with us on this site. He has been a major presence in the background for a long time, as a source of raw footage and an adviser on video issues. He has done a lot of recent work himself on image rectification, which helps bring new details to light.

  13. “America is ruled by a parallel system of power that operates above and in some ways below our system of democratic governance,” says David Talbot in this engaging conversation with University of California-Berkeley professor/poet/diplomat Peter Dale Scott.


    • The Pentagon has burned 9,500 copies of Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer’s memoir “Operation Dark Heart,” about going undercover in Afghanistan.

      Specifically, the DIA wanted references to a meeting between Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, the book’s author, and the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, Philip Zelikow, removed. In that meeting, which took place in Afghanistan, Shaffer alleges the commission was told about “Able Danger” and the identification of Atta before the attacks. No mention of this was made in the final 9/11 report.

      Shaffer, who was undercover at the time, said there was “stunned silence” at the meeting after he told the executive director of the commission and others that Atta was identified as early as 2000 by “Able Danger.”

      Dr. Philip Zelikow approached me in the corner of the room. ‘What you said today is very important. I need you to get in touch with me as soon as you return from your deployment here in Afghanistan’,” Shaffer said.

      Once back in the U.S., Shaffer says he contacted the commission. Without explanation, the commission was no longer interested. An inspector general report by the Department of Defense concluded there was no evidence to support the claims of Shaffer and others. But Fox News has obtained an unredacted copy of the IG report containing the names of witnesses, who backed up Shaffer’s story when contacted for comment.

    • Are these Congress Critters really this fucking dumb? I really doubt it, but it sure works to the system’s favor for them to pretend to be:

      Dr. Eileen Preisser testifies before a congressional briefing. Dr. Preisser was one of four analysts in the US Army’s Land Information Warfare Activity (LIWA) supporting Able Danger in late 1999 and 2000 (see Fall 1999). While her testimony remains classified…
      Representative Christopher Shays (R-CT) gives a brief summary: “In a briefing we had yesterday, we had Eileen [Preisser], who argues that we don’t have the data we need because we don’t take all the public data that is available and mix it with the security data. And just taking public data, using, you know, computer systems that are high-speed and able to digest, you know, literally floors’ worth of material, she can take relationships that are seven times removed, seven units removed, and when she does that, she ends up with relationships to the bin Laden group where she sees the purchase of chemicals, the sending of students to universities. You wouldn’t see it if you isolated it there, but if that unit is connected to that unit, which is connected to that unit, which is connected to that unit, you then see the relationship. So we don’t know ultimately the authenticity of how she does it, but when she does it, she comes up with the kind of answer that you have just asked, which is a little unsettling.”

      ~October 11, 2001: Early Account of Able Danger Remains Classified

    • August 11, 2005: 9/11 Commission Admits Being Informed of Able Danger Unit that Identified Mohamed Atta in 2000
      In response to new revelations about a military intelligence unit called Able Danger, which allegedly identified Mohamed Atta and three other 9/11 hijackers more than a year before the attacks, Al Felzenberg—formerly the chief spokesman for the 9/11 Commission—acknowledges that a uniformed officer briefed two of the commission’s staff members about the unit in early July 2004 (see July 12, 2004). He also admits that the officer said the program had identified Mohamed Atta as part of an al-Qaeda cell in Brooklyn. This information was not mentioned anywhere in the commission’s final report. [NEW YORK TIMES, 8/11/2005] The existence of the Able Danger program was first revealed two days ago in an August 9 New York Times article (see August 9, 2005). In that article, the Times reported that Felzenberg had confirmed that an October 2003 briefing had taken place which did not include any references to Mohamed Atta or the Brooklyn al-Qaeda cell. But Felzenberg did not tell the newspaper about the July 2004 briefing, which apparently had provided the commission with far more details about the Able Danger program. [NEW YORK TIMES, 8/9/2005; NEW YORK TIMES, 8/11/2005] It is not clear who exactly in the commission was aware of the program. Former 9/11 Commissioners Tim Roemer and John Lehman say they were never briefed about Able Danger before the 9/11 Commission’s Final Report was published.

      Entity Tags: Curt Weldon, Mohamed Atta, Al Felzenberg, 9/11 Commission, Able Danger, Al-Qaeda
      Timeline Tags: 9/11 Timeline
      Category Tags: Able Danger, 9/11 Commission, 9/11 Investigations

    • Of course the final word from “the government” is a blanket denial, as obviously disingenuous as it is.
      This is an illustration of how naive it is to petition the most likely perpetrator to admit their own guilt:

      September 18, 2006: Pentagon Inspector General Dismisses Able Danger ClaimsEdit event
      The Defense Department’s office of the inspector general issues a report saying allegations made by members of the Able Danger program are unfounded. According to the inspector general, Able Danger did not identify any of the 9/11 hijackers before the attacks, the program’s members were not prevented from sharing this information with the FBI, and there was no retaliation against one person involved in the program, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaffer, after he highlighted the issue in the media. The basis for the main claim that the hijackers were not identified before 9/11 is that the recollections of the people who claim lead hijacker Mohamed Atta was identified “varied significantly.” In addition, the names of Atta and the other 9/11 hijackers said to have been identified by the program were not present in any surviving documentation, although the vast majority of the data gathered by the Able Danger program was destroyed several years ago (see May-June 2000). Concerning the blocking of passage of information to the FBI, the inspector general identified only one occasion when this may have happened, but found that such blocking “would not have been inappropriate under the circumstances.”

      Entity Tags: Office of the Inspector General (DoD), US Department of Defense
      Category Tags: Able Danger
      . . . .

  14. Recording Explosions

    On the Controlled Demolition Inc. web site there is – or was, an explanation of how the company produced videos of their demolition, both for records, and as promotional materials.

    These productions are designed to present a totally professional presentation. The camera’s are set up at various distances and angles, with zoom and telephoto capabilities. The sound is produced separately using special shotgun mics that can be calibrated to capture a clear and finely equalized signal, so that every sonic detail is captured. The video and sound is edited together all synced to a time code for a pro production.

    And it is this difference in quality that makes the difference in what you here from news camera’s that are mainly designed to capture the dialog of the newsman on the scene. he is close to the mike and it is set to pick up his voice at conversational levels. the mics for such productions are attenuated to protect the diaphragm, and unexpected loud noises will drop out for the purpose of not causing diaphragm damage. Most commercial mics are set at a range of attenuation circuitry that drops out automatically when there are strong spikes in dB levels. This is why capturing the sound of thunderstorms can be difficult without specially attenuated mics.

    I used to do field recording when I was doing sound design to go with ambient music. I had spotty successes, ones that could be used with editing together the sounds and cutting out the dropouts when a surprise strike of lightning would hit nearby. It would take several seconds for the sound to fade back in after such events.

    And the point of this ‘tutorial’ (of sorts), is that it is not surprising that the sound in the videos from 9/11 have picked up spotty sound tracks during the bomb events. Many shots were from fairly good distances and would only pick up the reflected sounds produced in the “canyons” of buildings and streets. At great distances using telephoto lenses, very little to nothing would be picked up. At mid distances, fairly distinct sounds could be captured. At closer distances, the attenuation situation would occur and dropouts would be present.

    There are however several videos that were just at the right distance and settings that picked up good clear recordings of the explosions. On of them is posted on this page. Another is of a female reporter talking about secondary explosions on camera and they can be heart distintcly in the background. There is of course the video of the firemen at a phone booth making calls to their homes, when there are suddenly booms that totally freak them out.

    All together, with these recordings, plus the hundreds of ear witness testimonies, it is clear beyond reasonable doubt that explosions are what took down the towers and #7.
    . . . . .
    Also see:
    How To Make (And Record) Explosive Sounds Using Common Household Chemicals
    By Peter Drescher
    “When sound designers post photos of these sessions to their websites and Facebook pages, they always have big goofy grins on their faces … and not just because explosions are fun to (safely) experience up close and personal. It’s also because they have to utilize a wide array of microphones and recording gear, usually in some remote mountain location, to accurately capture the crack-thud-wham of the explosive shock wave. It’s an audio guy’s dream scenario.”

  15. It is not true that there is a dearth of evidence for the sounds of explosions during the demolitions. In fact it has been shown that NIST edited the sound out of the videos that did have clear soundtracks of explosions. Further NIST made this spurious statement in the faq on Questions and Answers: “In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses. According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building’s critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings.” — The fact is that the sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB would be at the source of the explosion and wound fall off substantially at half a mile from that source.

    225 decibels — Deafening — 12″ Cannon @ 12′ in front and below

    Q. So who was 12 feet away from the detonations in the towers when they went off?
    A. Dead people. They are always deaf.

    140 dB – Deafening — Artillery fire

    –”The investigation cited as evidence the claim that no blast was audible on recordings of the collapse [of WTC-7] and that no blast was reported by witnesses, stating that it would have been audible at a level of 130-140 decibels at a distance of half a mile.”
    –The conclusion from NIST

    This is nonsense; this sentence would only be true if restated: ‘At a level of 130-140 decibels at source, it would be audible at a distance of half a mile.’

    –“How many survivors and up-close witnesses suffered severe hearing loss on 9/11? Many first responders were all easily within 1/4 mile of the towers. None of them mention deafening noise or pain as a result of hearing the destruction.”–Max Bridges

    This assertion is based on the misconception offered by NIST. Consider the table offered at the URL above; even at 225 decibels a 12″ Cannon is deafening at 12 feet away in front or below the blast.Anyone that close to a demolition blast would not only be deafened, they would be killed. Even being some block or so away the volume of the blast would attenuate significantly. The loudness of dB falls off exponentially by distance.[*]

    The assertion that none of the first responders reported explosive blasts is simply a lie, as has been gone into in great detail.

    –“None of them mention deafening noise or pain as a result of hearing the destruction” Because no one close enough to one of these blasts to be deafened survived to report it.

    The claim that “no blast was audible on recordings” is also untrue, as the recordings finally released by NIST due to Freedom of Information suits, clearly have such audible sound tracks on many videos.

    “Intensity and Distance
    • Sounds get quieter (less loud) the further you get from their source
    • Easy to see that in a free field, the power per unit area falls with square of
    the distance
    • Or in decibel terms, falls by 6dB every doubling of distance.

    • Objective and subjective scale of sound quantity
    • Sound Pressure Level scale (dBSPL)
    – logarithmic ratio scale
    – with a reference at the threshold of hearing
    – which is convenient, standard, and closer to our perceptions of loudness.”
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    It is also the case that dB cannot be measured from a sound recording:

    It is IMPOSSIBLE to measure dB from a sound recording. One can only measure the decibels of a live sound. Anyone that doesn’t get this is simply ignorant of the mechanics of sound recording.

    It is in the nature of any recorded medium, that it is in fact an artifact, it is not the thing itself. This artifact has only the relations to other artifacts contained in the medium the record was made in.

    With a sound recording these relationships are set and cannot be separated. The loudness or dB will then depend solely on the playback mechanism, the VU meter registering the settings on the playback. In a studio recording gleaning the true loudness of the drums compared to a guitar is impossible once the recording is mixed. One would have to then refer to the premix recording to adjust the levels.

    In a field recording where there is only the mix created by the circumstance of the set relationships at hand at the moment a recording is made, there is nothing but a mix recording to refer to, the levels are set and the dB of the entire recording is set in those relationships.

    One more thing about sound recording; those who have seen the films, ‘The Conversation’ or ‘The Good Shepherd’, may have seen the way EQ can be used to play with frequencies in a sound recording to mask or enhance a sound in a recording. These tricks are available to a talented recording artist. But it must be understood that
    ‘frequencies’ and ‘decibels’ are separate issues. Thus, assuming that the dB is somehow being manipulated by such techniques in in error, what is manipulated is the frequencies.

    Again, it is IMPOSSIBLE to measure dB from a sound recording.

    • Supplementary report made for FEMA by Therese McAllister, Jonathan Barnett, John Gross, Ronald Hamburger, Jon Magnusson. Chapter 2 … Appendix C, Limited Metallurgical Examination.

      “Two structural steel members with unusual erosion patterns were observed in the WTC debris field. The first appeared to be from WTC 7 and the second from either WTC 1 or WTC 2. Samples were taken from these beams and labeled Sample 1 and Sample 2, respectively. A metallurgic examination was conducted.

      Several regions in the section of the beam shown in Figures C-1 and C-2 were examined to determine microstructural changes that occurred in the A36 structural steel as a result of the events of September 11, 2001, and the subsequent fires. Although the exact location of this beam in the building was not known, the severe erosion found in several beams warranted further consideration. In this preliminary study, optical and scanning electron metallography techniques were used to examine the most severely eroded regions as exemplified in the metallurgical mount shown in Figure C-3. Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfication with subsequent intragranular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. A liquid eutectic mixture containing primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel. This sulfur-rich liquid penetrated preferentially down grain boundaries of the steel, severely weakening the beam and making it susceptible to erosion. The eutectic temperature for this mixture strongly suggests that the temperatures in this region of the steel beam approached 1,000 °C (1,800 °F), which is substantially lower than would be expected for melting this steel.”

      This is evidence of Thermite Arson, however NIST never addressed this information.

      Dr. John L. Gross is a research structural engineer in the National Fire Research Laboratory (NFRL) of the Fire Research Division (FRD) of the Engineering Laboratory (EL) at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Noitce that Gross is one of the names in the FEMA, Appendix C, Limited Metallurgical Examination.
      There is therefore no excuse whatsoever for NIST’s claim that there was no evidence of explosives or thermite arson.

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