BRUTAL FRANK’S BAR & GRILL
On the outpost between ‘civil society’ where political correctness reins despotic, and a neo-anarchist state of the free mind. To quote Jim Morrison, “out here on the perimeter we are stoned immaculate.”
Here there is no interest in “transhumanism” – just in the idea of remaining human, remaining sane, and retaining individuality. Here it is understood that we control our own emotions; that to be insulted one must allow a cutting remark to have it’s effect. The insult ‘taken’ is how you make your own pain of it.
Here there is no belief in lasting consensus – community is an ever shifting and morphing myth based on false notions of stasis.
Here there is no prophesy, just a continuum of a timeless state of wonder. [1≡∞]
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“Everything is under control. When you finally understand magic you will see that there is only White Magic. Everything else is a trick; ‘stage magic’. There is no devil, other than a stage hand.”~ Magus Maverik
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ON POLITICALLY CORRECT LANGUAGE
This term, “attack” is so often abused by those who falsely believe that their sensibilities can redefine language and true meanings thereof. It seems to me that too many are tossing language about without the slightest thought to context.
This sort of thing was revealed during the so-called ‘feminist revolution’, when the display of a scantily clad beautiful woman was said to be an “attack” on the sensibilities of the pathetic fat, and ugly sows that had to suck on each other for relief. It is this era of the 1960s that I recall as the genesis of ‘PC’, the PR for a ‘politically correct’ regimentation of society for the “ideals of equality”.
Reason tells the lucid thinker that an “attack” is a physical ‘act’ in it’s most basic context. The principles of liberty should remind that freedom of speech protects the speaker from accusations of ‘attacking’ another by the use of mere language or expression alone. ‘Insult’ is only harmful when the one ‘insulted’ takes the ‘insult’ seriously and is bothered by it in their own psyche. It is more that the act of ‘being insulted’ is the interior ‘act’ of an insecure personality, and the sign of over emotional juvenile thinking.
Assault in the real world is reaching out and touching someone physically. One cannot assault another over the internet by the use of language. One can indeed be assaulted if one is acted upon in such a way as to interfere with one’s online activities. Such as the arbitrary purging of someones’ work from a community site, using the very excuses I speak to here, claiming that such work is “an attack” on others in the community. When in fact, only the self appointed ‘authority’ has the capability of ‘acting’ in such a way as to cause real harm beyond the uses of language as far as real effect is concerned.
By the way, I used that illustration above about the ‘feminist revolution’, purposely to show the type of language that is often characterized as “an attack”. It can be fairly characterized as ‘crass’ as being ‘in bad taste’ as being ‘uncivil’ and many other such complaints – BUT it is not an attack. It is expression of OPINION.
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‘A REALLY GOOD TIME’
You´re heard enough
Of the blues and stuff
You´re pretty swell now
´cause you´re pretty tough
But I don´t have to tell you
How hard it can be to get by
You never bothered
About anyone else
You´re well educated
With no common sense
But love – that´s one thing
You really need to get by
All your troubles
Come from yourself
Nobody hurts you
– they don´t care
Just as long as you show them
A really good time
All the things
You used to do
A trip to the movies
A drink or two
They don´t satisfy you
They don´t tell you anything new
You know I don´t talk much
Except to myself
´cause i´ve not much to say
And there´s nobody else
Who´s ready and willing
And able to know me – I guess
Listen to me
I´m not finished yet
There´s something to tell you
That I can´t forget
Just have a really good time
There´s a girl
I used to know
Her face is her fortune
She´s got a heart of gold
She never goes out much
But boy – when she does
Then you know
She´s got no money
Well, maybe a dime
But she knows what she´s worth
And that´s reason why
She´s gonna make it
She´s got what it takes
You´ll appreciate that
She´s probably late
But I know
And you know
We all know
She´ll have a really good time
ROXY MUSIC
Songwriter: BRYAN FERRY
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Life is not an ‘Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting’
I do not seek your grace nor forgiveness.
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[Repost from a comment I made on email:]
As you know, I have been wary, and quite skeptical of the view that all of these events are staged using ‘crisis actors’. Some of my first hot tangos of disagreement with JG were during the Sandy Hook discussions, when she was so adamant that none of the kids were killed and it was all a put on show.
That is why I mentioned her latest take on the Kenyan Mall event as another leap into speculative woowoo…
And while they were all partying and laughing it up over the video with the “analysis” of everything being “fake blood and victims”….they were interrupted by this:
“UPDATE: I will have to alter my views on this Kenyan “event”, as I just received news regarding a very close friend (from Kenya), who reports that one of his relatives there was “killed” in this event. This would changes my concept of the scenario.” ~boomerangcomesback on September 24, 2013 at 9:10 pm
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/09/23/kenyan-mall-shooting-hoax/
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Due to the technological magic of the Public Relations Regime, there will be no threats to the present parasitic processes.
So how is there any prospect for “changing the world”, when we look at the microcosms reflecting the macro version of culture and society and see the same errors in miniature? We see time and again, groups coming together in ‘protest’ of the way in which the world is managed by the elites. We see them writing about Liberty, Free Speech and Opinion. Writing against tyranny and despotism, conformity and going along to get along, apathy and trite judgments. We witness a longing for establishing Truth and Justice. And yet when we get to the core of it, these bloggers are no more enlightened than the larger society they critique.
When push comes to shove it is too often, “meet the new boss – same as the old boss”. And that revelation is generally only obvious from outside of the immediate circle of the clique involved.
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Here’s a little something to add a point of interest
“Now I am become DEATH the destroyer of worlds”
Oppenheimer’s infamous quote after the first atomic bomb went off.
A weird demonic character this Oppenheimer; certainly as mad as any hatter throughout history. Eustice Mullins essay on the secret history behind the making of the Atomic Bomb is a fascinating and troubling read…
I have it on file, but looking it up on the web would be the fastest way for you to locate it.
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“In the delusion called consensus reality, whole populations admire these gangsters, who represent the generalized desire for some kind of revenge against life-as-it-is.”~Rappoport
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/propaganda-mind-control-turning-truth-backwards/
This is another good one from Jon – don’t miss it.
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Washington’s Tyranny
“The war criminal barack obama has declared his “outrage” over the 62 deaths associated with the takeover of a Nairobi, Kenya, shopping mall by al-Shabaab fighters. But the attack on the shopping mall was obama’s fault. Al Shabaab spokesmen said that the attack on the Nairobi mall was a retaliatory response to the Kenyan troops sent to fight against them in Somalia. The Kenyan troops, of course, were sent to Somalia as a result of pressure from Washington.
Just as the outbreak of violence in Mali resulted from the fighters that obama used against Gaddafi moving into Mali, Washington’s violence against Somalia has resulted in the terrorist attack on the Nairobi mall.
This fact again raises the never asked question: What is the real agenda of Washington’s “war on terror”? The western presstitutes never ask this question, nor do western legislative bodies.
Until the 21st century, Washington carried out its relentless nefarious activities against other peoples and countries under cover and out of sight. In the 21st century the criminal bush and obama regimes have brazenly demonstrated their disregard for US law, international law, and human rights.
When the world looks at Washington, it cannot differentiate Washington from the dictatorships that Washington attributes to other countries. The Washington regime has declared that it is above both law and Constitution and possesses the power to detain citizens indefinitely and to murder them without due process of law. These powers comprise the necessary and sufficient conditions for dictatorship.”~Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/09/24/washingtons-tyranny-paul-craig-roberts/
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/03/23/israels-fingerprints-are-all-over-911-and-im-not-afraid-to-say-it/
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I disagree with this analysis. I think that Blakeney and those he cites are working from a false paradigm, one that confuses manufactured appearances with with a deeper reality underneath.
I would posit that the assertion that, “the U.S. And Israel are two different, autonomous, sovereign states,” is balderdash. A global regime of ‘interdependence’ trumps any interests of individual states that find themselves serving the interests of the combined economic power of the central authority – the actual power behind all thrones.
This global power is known by many names, but it is most simple to refer to it as the New World Order. The actual architecture of modern political power is yet still hidden in plain-sight due to the clever conditioning of the common mind.
Popular History is a Modified Limited Hangout.
Government is a racket.
Gangsters and pirates run the world. And naïveté is not innocence.
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It has been half a century since the coup ‘etat in the USA…
Yes, this November 22nd it will have been, 50 years..!
Where did the people think this nation would be driven by the fascist cabal that would institute a military putch?.!.?
Well, they didn’t THINK, that is the whole issue. Isn’t it.
Yes it is.
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“The overwhelming question is, “what is reality?” ~Phillip K. Dick
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ON SUPERSTITION
[1≡∞] THE FINAL BARDO – YOU CHOOSE WHAT IS REAL
Yes, you choose, by what you “believe in” what is reality for yourself.
And you choose to believe in demons and devils, dark spirits who have evil powers over your reality?
This is YOUR choice. Why?
You cannot, as you seem to think, avoid responsibility for this choice.
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‘Bardo’ means, Plane Of Existence.
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Parmenides was among the first to propose an ontological characterization of the fundamental nature of existence. In his prologue or proem he describes two views of existence; initially that nothing comes from nothing, and therefore existence is eternal. Consequently our opinions about truth must often be false and deceitful. Most of western philosophy, and science – including the fundamental concepts of falsifiability and the conservation of energy – have emerged from this view. This posits that existence is what can be conceived of by thought, created, or possessed. Hence, there can be neither void nor vacuum; and true reality can neither come into being nor vanish from existence. Rather, the entirety of creation is eternal, uniform, and immutable, though not infinite (he characterized its shape as that of a perfect sphere). Parmenides thus posits that change, as perceived in everyday experience, is illusory. Everything that can be apprehended is but one part of a single entity. This idea somewhat anticipates the modern concept of an ultimate grand unification theory that finally explains all of existence in terms of one inter-related sub-atomic reality which applies to everything:[1≡∞].
Paradox divides the whole, there is only One which cannot be divided.
[This equation, or series of symbols; the numeral 1, the symbol meaning “is exactly” and the symbol for infinity, is actually my own creation. I think it was around 1967 that I first wrote it out on paper.]
“je pense donc je suis” {“I think, therefore I am”}~René Descartes
Now, “je suis” is French for “I am” – French is in the Latin language group. Is not “je suis”, astonishingly similar to “Jesus”?
Then going back to Moses and the Burning Bush, and the voice says, “I am that I am”. I would posit that the voice {vox} hit it on the head when viewed from the perspective I suggest.
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TIME AND TRIVIA
Who is Wednes? And why is there a day of the week named after him??
Sunday is named after Sol, the Sun.
Monday is named after Luna, the Moon.
Tuesday is named after Tyr, the Norse god of war.
Wednesday is named after Odin, the Norse god of wisdom.
Thursday is named after Thor, the Norse god of thunder.
Friday is named after Frigga/Freya, the Norse goddess of marriage.
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Perhaps not so trivial:
September 11, 2001 was a Tuesday
Tuesday is named after Tyr, the Norse god of war.
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Wizards and owls – Owls and wizards.
The owl a bird feasting on fat rat gizzards..!
Merlin is a wizard featured in many British legends. Though he first appeared under the name Myrddin Wyllt (Merlin the wild) in Welsh literature as a half-crazed prophet of the forest, he is perhaps most famous as a central figure in the Arthurian legend. He is most commonly depicted as the adviser of King Arthur.
Merlin is a “Magus Maverik” – a powerful rogue personality that creates his own legend of his own will.
It is unusual that Merlin, one of the most famous proponents of Muggle rights and tolerance, would be placed in Slytherin, a house strongly associated with anti-Muggle views, although since he was such an ambitious person with all his plans for the Order of Merlin, it is not entirely surprising. Slytherins aren’t necessarily evil or bad, nor is there any information whether or not the House of Slytherin actually held the same views in Merlin’s time.
In fact, the entire placement of Merlin at Hogwarts is paradoxical. Hogwarts was founded in the 9th/10th century, and while the early 9th century was the time the first records of the Arthur-myth were written, the actual myth plays around the year 500 A.D., meaning that the ‘historical’ Merlin in fact predates Hogwarts by roughly five-hundred years. However Merlin, being the wizard he is, was probably allowed adult education to further his magical studies and abilities in the search to become more powerful.
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In the last 10 – 12 years I have seen the proficiency of the www drop dramatically. The newest “hi-tech” browsers being molasses slow, sites being unavailable; generally an increasingly more frustrating and patience rending experience. When I was first doing the Internet, all that was needed was a sufficiently powerful computer. Now no-matter how much memory and how efficient the machine, the ‘improvements’ to the www system has turned to shit. And this is obviously purposeful as a strategy of tension…for all users. Everything is built to cause stress in this culture. Even making doing commercial business less efficient is alright, because the bottom line is not economic, it is raw political control that is the central agenda.
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/09/25/congress-moves-to-outlaw-the-alternative-media/
“Frankenfeinstein will likely fail this time, even though she has announced plans to try again if her amendment is not successful. Recent history strongly suggests that the globalists will also keep trying until they get what they want, which is to silence every journalist that they do not control.”
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http://www.zengardner.com/truth-israel-americans-need-know-2/
“But what has been purposely obscured is a third element that entered and has inflamed the Middle East ever since. It was European Jewish people who were brought in after WWII for the purpose of occupying much of Palestine and resurrecting the ancient name of Israel. This was a political agenda, not a humanitarian intention.
These Europeans had long ago emerged from Khazaria (southern Russia), where their king – for the purpose of greater, unified control – converted them to the Babylonian schools of Judaism in the 8th century. Thus, not only their DNA, but their perspectives are a different reality from the Judean teachings in Jesus’ world.
What we have in modern Israel, then, is an artificially created state dominated by Jews who have no geographic, genetic, nor spiritual connections to biblical Israel or the time of Jesus.
This unjust situation goes back at least to the Balfour Declaration of 1917, whereby Britain announced that Palestine must be given to the Jews and be re-born as Israel. But wait — they did not refer to the Jews that were already there – they did not mean the 20% of the Jewish population in Palestine who are descended from Jesus’ time and place.
They meant that Palestine should be given to members of the other 80% of the world’s Jews, to those who were belated converts originally in Russia, shipped in in 1948, and have no historical connection with either the land of Israel or the Hebrews.
Many were connected, however, to British/American banking and oil interests – who, by whatever it takes to get themselves a foothold in the rich Middle East – have been and continue to wreak havoc and commit mayhem on our planet.
This plan, their policy, is called Zionism. It is not the Jewish religion. It is not Judaism. Zionism is a political strategy to use Jewish issues as a club to beat people over the head with, in order to enable the criminal occupation going on in Palestine – an occupation which is always criminally trying to expand – and which is conducted by usurpers who have no right to be there.”~Connie Cook Smith
http://rense.com/general96/dicke.html
“Ask most people about Zionism and they will say ‘that’s the Jews’, but while this is the impression the Rothschild networks in politics and the media have sought very successfully to ‘sell’ as ‘common knowledge’, it is not true. It represents only a minority of them and many others who are not Jewish.
Rothschild Zionism in its public expression is a political ideology based on a homeland for Jewish people in Palestine and a belief that the Jews are God’s ‘chosen race’ with a God-given right to the ‘promised land’ of Israel (historically this is nonsense, as I show in my books)
They have sought to sell the ‘Zionism-means-all-Jewish-people’ lie so that they can condemn as ‘anti-Semites’ and ‘racists’ anyone who exposes the truth about Rothschild Zionism and its agents in government, banking, business, media, military etc.”~David Icke
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ON USURY
The so-called “national debt” should be repudiated, nullified. Those to whom the debt is supposedly due , stole that real property and wealth with a ponzi scheme using worthless ‘monopoly money’, creating an utterly fraudulent paradigm. Only by stepping outside of the delusion of that paradigm can there be justice.
The difficulty of breaking the trance of high-tech necromancy has been discussed at length; and therein lies the terrible dilemma of postmodern humanity to the peril of the planet itself.
What needs to be done is simple, getting to the place where it can be done is the herculean task.
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The 9th Amendment of the US Constitution
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia spoke yesterday at the Northern Virginia Technology Council in McLean, Virginia.
Scalia said that before the court’s 1967 opinion on wiretapping, the high court held the view that there were no constitutional prohibitions on wiretaps because conversations were not explicitly granted privacy protection under the Fourth Amendment, which protects against Americans against unreasonable search and seizure of “their persons, houses, papers, and effects.”
But he said then the Warren court stepped in and found that “there’s a generalized right of privacy that comes from penumbras and emanations, blah blah blah, garbage.”
. . . . . .
Of course anyone who understands the rights of Liberty knows that Scalia the scaly is disparaging other rights “retained by the people”, as spoken to in the 9th Amendment. Pretending not to understand such very plain language, is the same spurious ‘garbage’ as another Federalist Society fascist, Judge Bork used in his failed bid for a place on the Supreme Court; “No one knows what that amendment is supposed to mean..” {Bork}
It is authority that must be specifically enumerated and prescribed to be legitimate, not the vast penumbra of rights – impossible to fully enumerate – held by the people.
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Penumbra
An aspect of context, wherein understanding can only be complete when considered in the fullness of the object at hand.~ww
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“Well done, sir! Your best effort yet! This is the thinker and inspiration-giver that we’ve all been waiting for. Where have you been hiding?”~Señor El Once
— September 27, 2013 at 11:19 am
In answer to that, and I mean this without malice: I have only been hidden by the mote in your own eye.
Let us then speak no more to this.
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Like a wiser frog about to cross the stream, I neither embrace nor reject the scorpion’s entreaties, but ignore and go my own way.
We are sufficiently estranged, for myself at least to consider it the final pact.
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THE SAMSON OPTION
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: ‘Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.’ I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”~Martin van Creveld *
[*”The war game”, The Observer (UK), Saturday 20 September 2003.]
Read more at:
A “Nuclear-Free Zone” in the Middle East? Why Israel will not Join the Non-Proliferation Treaty — By Timothy Alexander Guzman
Global Research, September 27, 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-nuclear-free-zone-in-the-middle-east-why-israel-will-not-join-the-non-proliferation-treaty/5351738
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Ron Rosenbaum writes in his 2012 book How the End Begins: The Road to a Nuclear World War III that in the “aftermath of a second Holocaust” Israel’s surviving Dolphin-class nuclear missile submarines would retaliate not only against Israel’s attackers, but “bring down the pillars of the world (attack Moscow and European capitals for instance)” as well as the “holy places of Islam.” He writes that “abandonment of proportionality is the essence” of the Samson Option.
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Fountain of Youth & Ponce de Leon Lives Again
Scientists Are Convinced Mind Transfer Is the Key to Immortality
Call it mind transfer, uploading, brain backup, whatever—the idea of copying the human brain to a computer so it can live on without the body has a strong hold on futurists, neuroscientists, and folks that just want to live forever.
Also Stephen Hawking. At screening of a new film about his life this week, the cosmologist said he believes it’s possible to retain a digital version of the brain after the body dies—though it probably won’t happen in his lifetime.
“I think the brain is like a program in the mind*, which is like a computer, so it’s theoretically possible to copy the brain onto a computer and so provide a form of life after death,” he told a crowd in Cambridge.
Arr…and I say, HORSESHIT.
It is rather like claiming that John Lennon is alive and experiencing singing ‘Across the Universe’ anytime you play it on your DVD player. A digitized ‘mind’ is no more conscious than a digitized voice.
The voice is in the consciousness of the listener. In the same way the perception of an aware digital mind, will only be in the perception of the one beholding such a “mind”.
The problem is the perception of and definition of “consciousness”, a failure in meta-reasoning.
* Like is not.
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That little wart Hawking ain’t long for it anyhow. He’ll find out soon enough.
http://www.rainbowbarandgrill.com/
9015 Sunset Boulevard – West Hollywood, CA 90069
| 41 Years at this location |
I recall sitting across the room from Jack Nicholson at lunch time there once. We were the only two customers in the whole place.
I had glanced his way a couple of times. About the time he had finished eating, the waitress had brought his bill, I glanced his way again. He gave me a big grin and nodded. I know he really appreciated that I hadn’t come over and bothered him.
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The place is still there…I just read they have one in Las Vegas too now.
Somewhere ‘Over the Rainbow’… I met some real beauties there, upstairs at the dance area… never forget that place.
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I just read Waldo’s post…Waldo is as Waldo does…
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/09/27/dont-you-love-farce/
His own version of “WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!”
Hahahaha…yea?
All that lives is born to die – sometime. But all at once in a really big shew? Doom and Gloom Bullshit.
And if I’m wrong — whooda fuck is gonna call me on it?
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Here’s a goody. Easy enough to read into what side of the paradigm this guy’s on but never the less it still poses an interesting perspective.
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SYRIA
‘The US has come around to Russian thinking’
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After years of gridlock, the US and Russia pushed together for a UN Security Council resolution to scrap Syria’s chemical arsenal. Syria expert Joshua Landis tells DW why diplomacy is the best option.
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry (L) and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov shake hands after making statements following meetings regarding Syria, at a news conference in Geneva September 14, 2013. The United States and Russia have agreed on a proposal to eliminate Syria’s chemical weapons arsenal, Kerry said on Saturday after nearly three days of talks with Lavrov. REUTERS/Ruben Sprich (SWITZERLAND – Tags: POLITICS)
DW: Can the US-Russian backed UN draft resolution achieve its goal of destroying the Syrian regime’s chemical weapons arsenal?
Dr. Joshua Landis: It’s much more likely to achieve it than American bombing. An American strike on Syria would have blown up some buildings and killed some Syrian soldiers and others, but it wouldn’t have done anything to destroy chemical weapons. It might have deterred Assad for sometime.
But this process deters Assad for at least one year, one would assume, from using his weapons. And it holds out the promise of Russian pressure on Assad to cough up the weapons. Now, Russia may have to pay Assad with more conventional weapons to get the things out.
But it’s a net positive over what the alternatives were. Otherwise, Obama was going to do this all by himself with no support from the international community or from his own people, which was a very precarious political position to be in. At least now, he has international support to root out these weapons.
Where does that leave the Syrian rebels? It leaves them in a better position because Assad is less likely to use chemical weapons for the next year at least, and probably forever, which means they don’t get killed by chemical weapons, which is better than before. It neutralizes a big element of his arsenal.
By jointly backing the UN resolution, the United States and Russia appear to be on the same side of the Syrian conflict for the first time. Will this cooperation bring any political progress in Syria?
I don’t think so. It depends on what kind of progress you’re looking for. If you’re looking for the division of Syria and a possible cease-fire along present lines, then it brings us closer. If you’re looking for a Sunni win over the Assad government, it does not.
If you’re looking for the end of a refugee crisis and so forth through the division of Syria – into a regime Syria and a rebel-run Syria – this could actually bring us closer because America is less likely to encourage the rebels to go for a win, and that is already taking the wind out of the rebel effort.
Joshua Landis is Director of the Center for Middle East Studies and Associate Professor at the University of Oklahoma’s College of international Studies. He is also the President of the Syrian Studies Association.
Copyright: University of Oklahoma Dr. Joshua Landis
So basically, the rebels in Syria understand that Obama is more interested in chemical weapons than in helping the rebels. In fact, what this whole effort is saying to them is that the only thing that Obama considers worse than Assad having chemical weapons is the rebels having chemical weapons.
Does that mean, in private, the US position is actually closer to the Russian position than stated publicly?
Yes, it always had been. That’s why America has been turning to Russia since the beginning for a resolution in the UN instead of just bombing Syria. We could do an Iraq on Syria. In Iraq, it took us three weeks to destroy Saddam. But we could probably destroy Assad in much less than that. But we don’t want to because we don’t like what the rebels offer us.
The Russians have been telling us [the United States] since Afghanistan that what we’re doing in the Middle East is not bringing democracy; it’s bringing failed states and more Islamism and terrorism.
I think the United States has come around to the Russian thinking on this, which is why you’re hearing so little about democracy promotion from Obama, and you’re hearing a lot about containment and managing conflict – patchwork security. These are the code words for “we don’t trust Arabs to be democratic.”
The draft resolution says that if Syria doesn’t comply and destroy its chemical weapons, then the Security Council may take Chapter VII measures. But a second resolution has to be adopted for that. Will Russia change its position toward sanctions and the use of force, if Syria doesn’t comply?
We don’t know what Russia will exactly do. Obviously this is weak. Lots of Americans are apoplectic at [Secretary of State John] Kerry: That he’s been outmaneuvered by Russia; that [Foreign Minister Sergei] Lavrov is the wily fox and knows the UN; that Russia owns the UN. We’re hearing all of these sweet phrases out of very angry American right-wingers. And some not so right-wingers, some liberal hawks [too].
But the fact of the matter is America has a very weak hand here. We don’t want to own Syria. Obama doesn’t want to open the money spigot on the Syrian problem. He has no faith that America can fix the Syria problem. We basically had an infinite amount of money to spend on Iraq and couldn’t fix anything. And the same in Afghanistan. So the Russians have a strong hand – we’re telling the Russians: You fix this problem.
We’re not going to get the UN to sign a Chapter VII. At any rate, the only people who would bomb Syria on a Chapter VII are America. We don’t need a Chapter VII to bomb them – Obama can fly his jets over there anytime he wants, and he’ll be all alone. And he will be [alone] even if the UN signs a Chapter VII, because I’m sure Germany isn’t going to send any jets over there to bomb Syria. Nor is France for that matter, even if they talk big. And England has already made clear that they’re not going to do it. Chapter VII or no Chapter VII, it all adds up to the same thing: If Obama wants to police this, he can bomb them.
Now what Obama got out of the UN is better because it gives the Russians leverage over the Syrians. The Russians can say they’re holding back the Americans. And the Americans are going to be sitting there with a magnifying glass trying to point out everywhere Syrians are cheating. Ultimately, will they get every chemical weapon? I doubt it. But will they get a lot? They probably will, because Assad doesn’t want to get bombed.
Are Assad and Russia serious about destroying the chemical weapons, or is this a way to buy time for the regime?
The regime looks at it as a way to buy time. America looks at it as a serious way to destroy the weapons. And Russia isn’t quite sure. What we had three weeks ago is America was going to unilaterally destroy a Russian client, which was going to make Russia look weak. Today, America is sitting down with Russia and letting Russia manage this affair. It’s much better for Russia; it’s much better for Assad; but it’s also better for America. It’s a win, win, win.
We have to remember – America has no strategic interests in Syria, very few. We’ve had sanctions on Syria since the seventies; we have no trade with the country; we don’t talk to them diplomatically about anything except for stopping terrorism and support for Hamas and Hezbollah. And today, Syria doesn’t support either group with any money or any arms because it’s too busy supporting itself. In fact, Syria is a net drain for both those groups.
So Syria is actually doing the right thing from the point of view of American interests by eating up its military machine and destroying itself. Now of course, there’s potential spillover in the region, and destabilizing Jordan and Lebanon, but so far it’s pretty good. Those countries have not collapsed. Turkey is weaker than it was. The situation is not bad for America if you want to look at it cold hearted.
Sure it puts stress and it’s creating a big al Qaeda problem. Obama wanted to declare victory over al Qaeda once he killed Bin Laden and say that he had attrited and destroyed two-thirds of the al Qaeda leadership. The problem is that what we’re watching in Syria and Iraq is the resurrection of an al Qaeda two. And it’s much bigger and much more numerous than it ever was in Afghanistan. There are thousands of jihadists getting front line training and actually developing an Islamic state, because Al Qaeda in Iraq and the Levant owns big swathes of Syria.
Assad’s strategy is to help turn the rebel-owned north of Syria into Kandahar and then to offer his services to America and Russia as the person who can help them solve their al Qaeda problem. That’s what he’s telling America and the world every time he gets on TV.
Dr. Joshua Landis is director of the Center for Middle East Studies and associate professor at the University of Oklahoma’s College of International Studies. He is also the president of the Syrian Studies Association and the webmaster of syriacomment.com.
Thanks for posting Veri,
I disagree that this is “an interesting perspective” — in fact I find it jejune twaddle by an academiac of the Public Relations Regime.
Reading ‘sanity’ into the machinations of the insanity of pure political power is simply promoting deeper insanity.
Anyone who can come up with this line of bullshit is living in a delusional fantasyland:
“Obama wanted to declare victory over al Qaeda once he killed Bin Laden and say that he had attrited and destroyed two-thirds of the al Qaeda leadership.”
Bin Laden had been dead for a decade before Obama “killed him”.
It is a fact that “al Qaeda” is a provocation and a subsidiary of Western Intelligence; a “cut-out” used for the “Strategy of Tension”.
Dr. Joshua Landis is essentially analyzing a science fiction script and reading it as if it is reality.
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As with you, I don’t agree with this person. Reason why I posted it was to elicit a response. Pretty obvious that this person is from the 19 box cutter carrying hyjacker building 7?? crowd. Point I’m making is, here’s another over educated buffoon putting out their rendition of consensus like they know what the fuck they’re talking about and trying to pass it off as solid alternate news perspective.
MSM spin is toxic and alternate news has to be viewed very critically, the fabric of it is pockmarked with crap like this disguised as a knowledgeable take on “As The World Turns” another soap opera.
Are we seeing a trend happening? Only the shadow knows
Upside Down World
Saturday, 28 September 2013
New Book
Dancing with Dynamite
Social Movements and States in Latin America by Ben Dangl
Written by Jim Lobe
Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:31
A military checkpoint on Colombia’s Atrato River. Credit: Jesús Abad Colorado/IPS(IPS) – The United States needs to phase down its drug war and tighten the reins on its cooperation with local militaries and police in Latin America, according to a new report released here Wednesday by three influential think tanks.
Of particular interest is the increase in training deployments to Latin American and the Caribbean by the Special Operations Forces (SOF) – elite units like the Army’s Green Berets and Navy SEALS – due in part to the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq and drawdown from Afghanistan.
Over the past decade, SOF ranks have more than doubled to about 65,000, and their commander, Adm. William McRaven, has been particularly aggressive in seeking new missions for his troops in new theaters, including Latin America and the Caribbean where they are training thousands of local counterparts.
“You can train a lot of people for the cost of one helicopter,” Adam Isacson, an analyst with the Washington Office on Latin America (WOLA), told IPS.
He noted that the increased investment in SOF was part of a much larger Pentagon strategy of maintaining a “light (military) footprint” in countries around the globe while bolstering its influence with local military institutions.
The Pentagon, however, is much less transparent than the State Department, and its programs are often not subject to the same human-rights conditions and do not get the same degree of Congressional oversight.
Moreover, McRaven has sought the authority to deploy SOF teams to countries without consulting either U.S. ambassadors there or even the U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM), making it even more difficult for civil society activists to track what they’re doing and whether they’re working with local units with poor human-rights records that would normally be denied U.S. aid and training under the so-called Leahy Law.
Last summer, according to Isacson, McRaven’s command even tried to work out an agreement with Colombia to set up a regional special operations coordination center there without consulting SOUTHCOM or the embassy.
“What these developments mean is that the military role in foreign policy-making is becoming ever greater, and military-to-military relations come to matter more than diplomatic relations,” he said. “What does that mean for civil-military relations not only in the region, but also here at home?”
The 32-page report, entitled “Time to Listen”, describes U.S. policy as “on auto-pilot”, largely due to the powerful bureaucratic interests in the Pentagon and the Drug Enforcement Administration and their regional counterparts that have built up over decades.
“The counter-drug bureaucracies in the United States are remarkably resistant to change, unwilling to rethink and reassess strategies and goals,” said Lisa Haugaard, director of the Latin America Working Group Education Fund (LAWGEF) which released the report along with WOLA and the Centre for International Policy (CIP).
The report also noted that new security technologies, including drones, whose use by the U.S. and other countries is growing quickly throughout the region, and cyber-spying of the kind that prompted this week’s abrupt cancellation by Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff of her state visit here next month, pose major challenges to the security environment and civil liberties in the region.
Total U.S. aid to Latin America hit its highest level in more than two decades in 2010 – nearly 4.5 billion dollars – due to the costs of the “Merida Initiative”, a multi-year program for fighting drug-trafficking in Mexico and Central America, and a major inflow of assistance to help Haiti recover from that year’s devastating earthquake.
But aid fell sharply in 2011 – to just 2.5 billion dollars – and is expected to decline to just 2.2 billion dollars in fiscal 2014, which begins Oct. 1.
Military and security assistance also reached its height in 2010, at 1.6 billion dollars, but has since declined to around 900 million dollars, largely as a result of the phase-out of Plan Colombia and the Merida Initiative. Central America is the only sub-region in which aid, including non-security assistance, is increasing significantly.
But Isacson says dollar amounts can be deceptive, and while “big ticket” aid packages are down, “other, less transparent forms of military-to-military co-operation are on the rise,” in part due to the migration of many programs’ management from the State Department, which has more stringent reporting and human rights conditions, to the Pentagon.
A troubling trend, according to the report, is that some countries, especially Colombia, have begun training military and police forces in their neighbors, often with U.S. funding and encouragement.
In that respect, these third-country trainers act as private contractors who are not subject to U.S. human-rights laws and whose cost is a fraction of that of their U.S. counterparts.
Despite their security forces’ own highly controversial human rights record, Colombian officers have been given major roles, for example, in Washington’s Central America Regional Security Initiative (CARSI) and the Merida Initiative, as well as in Honduras’ police reform, according to the report.
“Bringing the military into the streets can result in grave human-rights violations,” according to Haugaard who also noted U.S. involvement in poorly designed and heavy-handed counter-drug operations, such as one in Honduras last year in which four passengers in a river taxi were killed by a joint Honduran-DEA operation.
Washington’s record has not been all bad, according to the report, which praised the Obama administration’s insertion of human rights into its high-level bilateral dialogues with Mexico, Colombia, and Honduras and its emphasis on the importance of civilian trials for soldiers implicated in serious rights abuses in Colombia and Mexico.
The administration has also taken some steps to strengthen enforcement of the Leahy Law, which denies U.S. aid and training to foreign military units that are credibly accused of serious rights abuses, according to the report. It also praised Washington’s support for Colombia’s peace process and its defense of the Inter-American human rights system against recent attempts by Venezuela, Ecuador and Bolivia to weaken it.
Still, Washington’s own human rights record, including its failure to close the Guantanamo detention facility, its newly revealed extensive surveillance programs, and a drone policy that justifies extra-judicial executions opens it to charges of double standard, the report noted.
Jim Lobe’s blog on U.S. foreign policy can be read at Lobelog.com.
Why We’re Shutting Off Our Comments
Starting today, PopularScience.com will no longer accept comments on new articles.
“A politically motivated, decades-long war on expertise has eroded the popular consensus on a wide variety of scientifically validated topics. Everything, from evolution to the origins of climate change, is mistakenly up for grabs again. Scientific certainty is just another thing for two people to “debate” on television. And because comments sections tend to be a grotesque reflection of the media culture surrounding them, the cynical work of undermining bedrock scientific doctrine is now being done beneath our own stories, within a website devoted to championing science.”
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-09/why-were-shutting-our-comments
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Of course PopularScience has every right to make any editorial decision they wish at their own web site. But the excuses put to this decision is epistemically, rhetorical bullshit.
“Everything, from evolution to the origins of climate change, is mistakenly up for grabs again.”~PS
“mistakenly”?
As far as “climate change” listen to some of the real controversy involved at:
http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/
“Scientific certainty is just another thing for two people to “debate” on television.”~PS
What does “television” have to do with this?
Furthermore, there is no such thing as “Scientific certainty” unless one is speaking from the dogmatic point of view of Scientism – which is not real science, but a belief system much like religion.
Like I said, PopularScience has the right to their own editorial policies, but they should cut the crap when it comes to making up lame excuses spawned by frustration at lack of being able to control free opinion.
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A Note on the Necessity of Historical Memory
“What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security.
Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’ that unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these ‘little measures’… must someday lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing…. Each act… is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.” – Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free, The Germans 1933-45
SUGAR IS A DRUG
Sugar named ‘most addictive and dangerous substance’ of our time, worse than cigarettes and alcohol.
Bravely defying processed food industry claims, which insist that sugar consumed “in moderation” is just fine, Van der Velpen delves into the actual science behind how the body responds to sugar as opposed to protein and fat. In his letter, Van der Velpen explains that sugar intensifies food cravings, for instance, and causes people to eat far more than they otherwise would without it. Additionally, he points out that sugar also disrupts normal food metabolism, eventually leading to addiction.
“Just like alcohol and tobacco, sugar is actually a drug,” writes Paul Van der Velpen, in an English translation from the original Dutch. “This may seem exaggerated and far-fetched, but sugar is the most dangerous drug of the times and can still be easily acquired everywhere … The use of sugar should be discouraged. And users should be made aware of the dangers.”
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2013/09/28/sugar-named-most-addictive-and-dangerous-substance-of-our-time-worse-than-cigarettes-and-alcohol/?
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PATHOLOGICAL GLOBAL SOCIETY
‘The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed’
– Steve Biko
http://www.pidradio.com/2009/08/23/vftb-010-dave-mcgowan-programmed-to-kill/
http://www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html
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Teaser from the second URL above:
“To the vast majority of Americans, the name Marc Dutroux doesn’t mean much. Drop that name in Belgium though and you’re likely to elicit some very visceral reactions. Dutroux – convicted along with his wife in 1989 for the rape and violent abuse of five young girls, the youngest of whom was just eleven – now stands accused of being a key player in an international child prostitution and pornography ring whose practices included kidnapping, rape, sadistic torture, and murder.
Dutroux was sentenced in 1989 to thirteen years for his crimes, but was freed after having served just three. This was in spite of the fact that, as prison governor Yvan Stuaert would later tell a parliamentary commission: “A medical report described him as a perverse psychopath, an explosive mix. He was an evident danger to society.”
The man who turned Dutroux loose on society, Justice Minister Melchior Wathelet, soon after received a prestigious appointment to serve as a judge at the European Court of Justice at the Hague. Shortly after Dutroux’s release, young girls began to disappear in the vicinity of some of his homes. Though technically unemployed and drawing welfare from the state, he nevertheless owned at least six houses and lived quite lavishly.”
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What does it mean to be well adjusted in a pathological society?
It means clinging to delusions as if your life depends on it, while actually your life and sanity depends upon jettisoning those very delusions.
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Techniques of Controlling Discourse on Public Forums
‘Staying On Topic’ – This is a common editorial admonishment.
Of course what is ‘on topic’ is a subjective call. The subtext of this conceptualization is one of controlling the dialog. Controlling the dialog under the auspices of ‘free speech’ is a form of subtle cognitive dissonance.
As I have pointed out before, and this began on the discussions at OEN, under the editorial management of Rob Kall: Political dialog is a tapestry of many threads.
The ‘general topic’ of ‘Politics’ itself is best served as a banquet and not as small snacks, because all of sociopolitical dialog weaves together as a whole. The general context is best served by unfettered dialog, especially when the commentator can reasonably show how the remarks fit into the larger picture as periphery to the narrow topic.
This being said, it is my assertion that an editor using the ‘staying on topic’ ruse to limit the opinions expressed is simply a form of ‘political correctness’ and censorship played very subtly – using the lexicon of free speech while trampling it.
~hybridrogue1 on October 8, 2011 at 1:15 pm – on the coto gumwall
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/whats-you-beef/#comment-46934
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THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE BULLSHIT
“There is no definition of a mental disorder. It’s bullshit. I mean, you just can’t define it.”~Dr. Allen Frances — lead psychiatrist on the project to write the DSM-IV
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/09/28/alexis-lanza-holmes-and-the-psychiatric-state/
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“A disorder doesn’t have to have a blood test to be valid. If that were the case, all mental disorders would be invalid…There is no lab test for any mental disorder right now in our science. That doesn’t make them invalid.”~Dr. Russell Barkley, professor of psychiatry and neurology at the University of Massachusetts Medical Center
“As Dr. Peter Breggin describes it in his landmark book, Toxic Psychiatry, a deal was struck. Drug companies would bankroll psychiatry and rescue it. These companies would pour money into professional conferences, journals, research. In return, they wanted “science” that would promote mental disease as a biological fact, a gateway into the drugs. Everyone would win—except the patient.” ~Jon Rappoport
Psychiatry isn’t science, it is pseudoscience…voodoo. Design masquerading as “Diagnosis.”
Designer Drugs for designed patients:
“True” science fiction stories for a pathological society.
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“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Any social theory that does not take into account Social Engineering, will be fatally flawed.
Dismissing the fact that the manufacture of consent is a proven phenomena of modern systems founded in public relations regimes leads invariably to preposterous analysis.
This idea that any sort of democratic process can work. when that process is truncated at the very core, is based on such preposterous analysis. It takes a determined insistence on delusional pretense to remain so gullible; and this determination is the product of the conditioning and programming of the postmodern technocratic states.
For those who haven’t studied and grasped the work of Bernays, and Lippmann and their school of progressive PR, nor the effects of watching television, can have no immunity to such scientifically calibrated persuasion.
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TYRANNY OUT OF THE CLOSET:
Policing for Fun and Profit
The practice discussed in this article is called civil asset forfeiture and is often referred to as “policing for profit.” It involves every aspect of law enforcement from the local police to federal authorities. Civil asset forfeiture laws permit the authorities the legal right to actually steal your private assets. No, these laws are not the RICO laws in which convicted drug dealers and money launderers forfeit their private property obtained in the commission of organized criminal activity. Civil asset forfeiture allows law enforcement the “legal right” to steal your assets even when you have not been convicted or even when you have not been accused of a crime. The practice makes potential thugs and thieves out of every law enforcement official who dons a badge.
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/the-new-mafia-wears-badge.html#TTDJX18eMpMy9phZ.03
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But let us again step back further, for that panoramic view and remember this:
There can be no justice in a stolen land.
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Perpetual mass-media deception and pervasive surveillance encompass a never ending train of abuse that won’t end any time soon. As long as armaments factories continue producing weapons of death for the fortune 500 Wall Street elite who reside in U.S. capitalist society, war and threats of war will continue to expand and take on an ever deadly character.
Over 1000 military bases stationed, world-wide, nuclear weapons, a nuclear, first-strike posture by U.S. anti-ballistic missile systems and thousands of tanks, planes, bombers, armadas, special forces killer teams, hundreds of proxies and the Central Intelligence Agency that massacres civilians in Pakistan with drones on a routine basis, not because the missiles are missing their targets as claimed but because slaughtering civilians is a rapacious and depraved tool of the U.S. war mongers and their imperial war machine–that includes the civilian CIA, for resource control against Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia and any other nation the U.S. bombs to sustain its militarized war economy and claim to control the world’s most coveted petroleum resources in the Caspian Basin and Africa.
No other power in the world divides sections of the globes into various coms–Africom, Centom, Eucom, Pacificom and Southcom, among others.~By William C. Lewis
Global Research, September 29, 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/worldwide-militarization-and-the-weapons-industry-americas-surveillance-and-targeted-assassination-machine/5352039
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“Hey JG. You took some serious flak and put up with a lot of ad hominem before “editing” the Rogue1. He immediately ran over to Scott Creighton’s site for refuge or some kind of place where he believed a blogger could say anything they wanted with zero accountability, and no chance of being “edited out” of the conversation. I see he’s no longer posting there.
Compare your tolerance to what you’ll find in the “comments section” of this thread — http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/10/05/miriam-carey-updates-obama-communicating-with-her-and-controlling-her-life-after-birth-of-child/#comment-71162 .”~boomerangcomesback on October 6, 2013 at 11:30 am
“Thanks for the link Boomer. Wow. Well, Scott hasn’t changed a bit. Were you here at the very first days of Coto? He was. He created a lot of dissension here because a nasty character by the name of Cinderfella was banned for his constant misogynistic and racist remarks. Creighton argued that free speech was free speech and no one should be kicked out for any reason.. LOL. My, my… look at that. He is berating people that simply dare question the official story. He’s deleting their comments or at least threatening to and telling them to get off his blog. He’s a nasty character when he’s not bowed down to and adored for his pearls of wisdom. So reminiscent of rogue and the narcissistic disorder they both suffer from. Their mantra is… there is no opinion worth considering but MY opinion. And Scott’s idea about the reason for the chase and killing? That Obama is Miriam’s baby daddy! lmfao. Where is HIS proof of THAT? And everyone should agree with that theory w/o evidence? BS. Guess he doesn’t know that the deceased’s family were not allowed to see their sister. They were shown a photo..just like sandy hook…… If she was really killed, why were they forbidden to identify the body? This shit is getting very old. EVERYONE should question if anyone died unless they are given some god damn proof! A simple start would be letting the family view the body!
Btw, good job on calling him out.”~jerseyg on October 6, 2013
at 3:58 pm
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/miriam-carey-murdered-by-dc-nazis/
… … … …
Shall I? Yes I shall deconstruct this dickspittle. But at my leisure.
Just one immediate comment;
Scott does not state categorically that Obamy is the father of Miriam’s daughter. Scott does indeed get hot with some of his readership.
Scott does not however pursue the issue beyond some venting. For JG Rached to curtly “diagnose” the both of us with her spurious “narcissistic disorder they both suffer from”… is illuminating as she did in fact go on the warpath against me, not only “editing” so-called “ad hominem”, but purging two whole articles I had written on coto.
As far as the little twatsniff Boomerwang characterizing me as “running to Scott’s blog”… This history is dealt with in detail on the Variation on Milgram page on this blog.
Deb, the JerseyBitch is hypocritical beyond measure. There is little to recommend Boomer for other than being an obedient follower.
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“I missed out on the birthing of COTO.”~Boomer
So the little twatsnif still isn’t aware of the Gumwall, and the real history of coto…hmmm?
Oh…so Big Sister is not comfortable with being watched herself.
But the word “hypocrite” rolls off her tongue like spent semen. Lol
hybridrogue1 on October 6, 2013 at 8:31 pm
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/miriam-carey-murdered-by-dc-nazis/#comment-47062
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Let’s see how long this comment lasts under the gaze of JG Rachet.
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Nope, the comment above didn’t last the night on coto. But one of Scott’s critics got three rounds of twitchy woowoo off there to replace it. Something calling itself; “marmarn” claiming Scott banned it..?
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They certainly took their round of shots at you over on coto. For me, it’s a let down to see through the charade of something that I had a respect for.
Yea Veri,
Big Sister is watching like a hawk now…the comment I re-posted here: October 7, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Was gone within ten minutes.
Yes we had respect for something that turned out to be a total fraud. If you check out the Gumwall at C1 you can see some of the real history of how it started with one foot in the despots jackboot.
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They got too big on themselves and have let their ego’s run slipshod over something that held potential. A case of the turd reacting in an turdy way.for being called out for acting like a turd.
Totally turdular dood…
..that’s the Chorus Of The Oinkers.
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“Something happened to you along the way.”~Booberwankshank
Yea…I got rope-burn on my neck from an attempted lynching by a gang of hysterical twits prone to blithering fits.
A ‘Chorus Of The Oinkers’ — read: COTO.
You have a ‘selective memory’ — you don’t remember, you can’t recall, you have no memory of any of that at all. It’s called a psychological fugue…an episodic amnesia — assisted by the use of the Memory Hole.
THAT is what is “Super lame and twisted.”
Be honest with Scott here Boober, there will be no apologies on coto for the disinformation about bannings and deletions here. The screws at coto can “do no wrong” because “COTO Knows”….hahahaha…
yea…
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/10/05/miriam-carey-updates-obama-communicating-with-her-and-controlling-her-life-after-birth-of-child/
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No one was banned or deleted on Scott’s site you assholes.
That is the bottom line that you keep avoiding with all this crackerjack drivel.
You can delete this, as the hypocrites you are – but calling out Scott for something he hasn’t done – for something that is clearly the MO here is really the prime slab of bullshit.
As usual Mr Dunne has his mind up the dark side of his moon, and has no idea as to what is actually transpiring, taking JGwhiz’s lying words as truth. ~hybridrogue1 on October 7, 2013 at 12:27 pm
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/miriam-carey-murdered-by-dc-nazis/#comment-47087
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You have got to check out and compare the stories laid down on these two threads…WTF? COTO is so desperate for a new member they are massaging Martha with vibrators and spicy gels and lotions…AND she is a fucking liar ta boot.
She was NOT banned from Scott’s site, he cussed her out, but he did not delete a single comment or ban her. So coto ends up with another courteous liar…doesn’t matter if you are truthful, so long as you are genteel — Lol
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/10/05/miriam-carey-updates-obama-communicating-with-her-and-controlling-her-life-after-birth-of-child/
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/miriam-carey-murdered-by-dc-nazis/#comment-47087
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“It was after reading Scott go off on you and others, and stating he was banning commenters, that I thought “How odd and out-of-character?” I sometimes have gone to his site, but have never encountered that vicious response. So, I thought of R1, and how he probably wouldn’t dig that scene, considering his trauma here. But, I was wrong. He hadn’t been posting anything there for awhile, and BAM! There he is. So, he’s shit all over me, JG, and COTO with his every comment, which is pathetic yet predictable. That’s how he rolls anymore.”~boomerangcomesback on October 7, 2013 at 4:09 pm
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/miriam-carey-murdered-by-dc-nazis/
. . . . . . . .
Alright, to deconstruct this blather:
First of all this; “I thought of R1, and how he probably wouldn’t dig that scene, considering his trauma here.”
But my “trauma”? Sorry booberwanker, no trauma here…just a state of wonder as to what a twatsniff you are following JG’s fascist ass like a puppy.
As far as who ‘shit on who first and why’ that is the issue that the boober has ass backwards. As far as Scott and his site, I dropped by there after checking the coto Gumwall history again, and the exchanges between JG and Scott to do with the banning of Cinderfella. And lo and behold, there is the Booberwanker getting thumped by Scott for being a numbskull.
And by gawd and dammit to hell you cotoscrews – Scott did NOT ban ANYBODY. Just because Martha gets cussed out does not amount to banning – nor are any of her comments deleted. If none of you idiots are going to use words in their proper definitions, then fuck you and roll you over for the ass penetration.
“Banning” means to be technically unable to post on a site any longer.
“Deleting” comments means they no longer appear on said site.
Neither of these definitions have been met as far as what has happened on the willyloman website.
So, cotoscrews spew anal hurlant and rub each other’s twats in self congratulations like spayed spaniels at the pound.
Meanwhile, anything I post on coto is purged within minutes. How’s that for a show of absolute hypocrisy? Pretty fucking blatant.
They don’t like tests because they fail every single one. I don’t have anything to say to these jerkbots, I just post comments there as a test to see if they delete it. And like clockwork it happens.
They are crazy as shithouse rats.
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boomerangcomesback, on October 8, 2013 at 4:51 pm said:
“I’ve never been your enemy. I’ve been the opposite, and you know that. Don’t you remember? Sometimes we are our own worst enemies…
Cheers!”
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This is from the willyloman thread. Hahaha…’Don’t I remember’?
What a fuckstick!
Who has the bad memory here?
I am not answering that, Booberwank is too fucking stupid to remember such a recent past — it is futile to try to communicate with the stooge.
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By Ellen Brown Global Research, October 07, 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/martial-law-and-the-economy-is-homeland-security-preparing-for-the-next-wall-street-collapse/5353267
“Reports are that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is engaged in a massive, covert military buildup. An article in the Associated Press in February confirmed an open purchase order by DHS for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. According to an op-ed in Forbes, that’s enough to sustain an Iraq-sized war for over twenty years. DHS has also acquired heavily armored tanks, which have been seen roaming the streets. Evidently somebody in government is expecting some serious civil unrest. The question is, why?
When depositors cannot access their bank accounts to get money for food for the kids, they could well start breaking store windows and helping themselves. Worse, they might plot to overthrow the financier-controlled government. Witness Greece, where increasing disillusionment with the ability of the government to rescue the citizens from the worst depression since 1929 has precipitated riots and threats of violent overthrow.
Fear of that result could explain the massive, government-authorized spying on American citizens, the domestic use of drones, and the elimination of due process and of “posse comitatus” (the federal law prohibiting the military from enforcing “law and order” on non-federal property). Constitutional protections are being thrown out the window in favor of protecting the elite class in power.
The next crisis on the agenda appears to be the October 17th deadline for agreeing on a federal budget or risking default on the government’s loans. It may only be a coincidence, but two large-scale drills are scheduled to take place the same day, the “Great ShakeOut Earthquake Drill” and the “Quantum Dawn 2 Cyber Attack Bank Drill.” According to a Bloomberg news clip on the bank drill, the attacks being prepared for are from hackers, state-sponsored espionage, and organized crime (financial fraud). One interviewee stated, “You might experience that your online banking is down . . . . You might experience that you can’t log in.”
It sounds like a dress rehearsal for the Great American Bail-in.”
~Ellen Brown
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“The revisionist-history framing on R1′s blog will be that **I** caused this rift. Well, my presence here might have indeed been like X-lax to R1′s system, but I didn’t generate what was expelled or where (or for this long). These were always inside R1, and he chose to remove his Depends and not to control how he released his inner essence, splattering others.”~Señor El Once on October 8, 2013
at 1:49 pm
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/proof-of-a-passenger-in-miriam-careys-car/
Again it is the Señor entity’s “revisionist-history framing” as far as the lynch mob activities on coto. No I do not claim that the entity ’caused the rift’ – he exasperated it, was a catalyst for the inner despotic nature of JG Rachet to synthesize into her rage.
She used him, he used her – a demons bargain with one another.
And now, for this “colorful language” used in the entity’s latest offering to coto…well so much for the “gentleman spook” aye?
But I must say that it is certainly brave and a show of “great integrity” {satirically speaking} for all the cotoscrews to continue to make their disparaging remarks on coto, as it is certain that any defensive remarks I might have won’t stand, for the ax of the raging nannybitch JG will make certain of that.
And of course Booberwanker is like a cushion, taking on the impression of the last ass to sit on him.
Y’all keep sniffing each other twats there ya hear?
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It’s actually quite saddening to watch COTO melt down like this. The twatman thinks he’s had his day over you. Hope he follows you over to willylomans. This asshole will get ripped to shreds there.
Here’s my new front.
Love your cool little airplane Veri…fun skyride.
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The plane’s been some of the best moments of my life. I wonder if they have it figured out yet on coto. They’ve lost it, It’s become a hollow joke.
Nah, coto?…they are clueless that they are clueless. You’ll never convince a bunch of crazy people that they are crazy.
They have each other to reassure themselves that they are cool – cuz they’re in with the in-crowd.
That is what group dynamics is all about – the herd instinct, it massages the magical – tribal mental structures and involves participation mystique {see: Gebser}.
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Ya know Veri,
The Pudster’s yada on coto more now that ever is more of a sermon than anything else.
Half of this one is passage from the Scriptures…Old Testament jumbomumbo… It’s almost like something you’d get going to an ‘Assembly of God’ church. Holyroller bullshit from the pulpit and “praise the lord” chants back from the pews…then snake handling and glossolalia ululations while twitching on the floor.
Check this one out dood:
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/miriam-carey-and-the-windtalkers/
“Windtalkers”? Yea the hot wind through the ass of his trousers…Lol
And the preachah has now called me and Scott “psychopaths”… hahah Excommunicated and cursed as infidels…. we be dealin’ wit da Pope of Coto my man.
Historical Revision – Winners/Losers
“Yes Oz, Rady AND Barbara Peterson were exactly right. They would not tolerate such behavior. This is the last comment I will make on this issue but let’s just clear up what really happened way back when.
Do you remember the blowup about Cinderfella? Babara and Rady wanted him gone and said so in no uncertain terms. I totally agreed with them because he was another misogynistic, foul mouthed cretin. Who defended him and his behavior? None other than that other other pompous ass, Scott Creighton/Willy Loman. Free speech was his battle cry. You can see our exchanges on that gum wall. Barbara and Rady wanted all their comments and articles erased from coto because of that incident which is why it looks like I am the only one there arguing for that creep being shown the door. That man, same as R1 were like cancers that continually eat away at the body of a website until there is nothing left but a shell. Attacking members (mostly women) just for the sake of being rude and offensive and pushing one’s own point of view over others. As Rady says on the gum wall (the gum wall she put up) when she commented after they both were gone “gee it smells so much nicer in here”. Yep, and stench like that will never be allowed to permeate this house again.”~jerseyg on October 9, 2013 at 5:29 am
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/proof-of-a-passenger-in-miriam-careys-car/
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Let us refer back to that old truism as a reference point at which to understand what is being said here, and that is “The Victors Write History”
And now we have Jerseyg the CotoQueen dictating the “official Coto story”, while at the same time admitting that she can only verify it by her personal recollection and our trust in her honor and integrity; because two of her cohorts, Rady and Barbara insisted that their comments be tossed in the Memory Hole.
Does this make sense to you?
What are they covering up here? Anyone who insists on destroying records, altering records, keeping two sets of books, etc, is immediately and justifiably liable for suspicion.
What is brushed aside so casually in the testimony of the despot from New Jersey, is the issue of Free Speech. It becomes obvious when looking through the record, that free speech is not a high priority for any of these people, and especially the three women {4 counting Oz} in the quote above.
I have no personal knowledge of Barbara Peterson. I only know that she is a very good writer and a successful blogger. I do however know both Jerseyg and shady Rady intimately. And I can say without hesitation that they are both liars – bald faced unmitigated liars. They are also vicious and vindictive despots. And neither one of them is very smart when all is said and done.
The following is the URL to the mentioned gumwall, remember it has been edited during the critical time period discussed above:
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/whats-you-beef/
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“There’s a lot of anger underneath, and as jg noted, it tends to come out @ the females especially.”~marmarn on October 9, 2013 at 1:59 am
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/proof-of-a-passenger-in-miriam-careys-car/
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People. Timid people. People who are afraid of words – afraid of “language”, afraid of their own shadow thoughts, are the most fucked up people in the world.
People who read creative, expressive, and brutally frank writing and interpret it as “angry,” are suffering from cultural conditioning, and haven’t broken free as true individuals. They are the kinds of people who in their fear of simple things like words, demand censorship – which is the first step into despotism.
You say something like; they are jejune diaper dumpers, and they get the vapors and faint on the spot. Now THAT is domestication, THAT is wearing a shock collar, THAT is the profile of a herd animal.
Now I have said it before and I will repeat it again; Life is not an Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting, and I do not need or want your approval, forgiveness nor blessings.
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Am I angry?
No, I am in a state of wonder at this pathologically jejune society. It amazes me that so few are able to complete the path to adult mental processes. They have been stunted by social engineering. They believe that ‘polite’ society is more valuable than a free society. They embrace rules like they were handed down by the Big Daddy in the sky. They want Big Brother and domestication and conformity above all else.
Their naïveté is sublime.
I am not writing from an emotional state here at all. I am writing from an integrated mental structure, very much familiar with my own epistemic construct and lucid philosophical basis.
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“I will comment that AE aka WL aka SC, like Cinderfella represent the totalitarian divide and conquer.
They exhibit the hypocrisy openly but it i a form of psychopathy where they are possibly truly unable to grasp their illness. It is a short circuit in the wiring where the loopback just does not happen.”~Puddy Dunne on October 9, 2013 at 12:25 pm
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/proof-of-a-passenger-in-miriam-careys-car/
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Ah so now the Pudthumper, the Prophet of Coto, the numerologist and gastromancer, takes it upon his twisted mind to ‘psychoanalyze Scott and Cinderfella – and by extension myself.
Of course he is the one with the major domo JG acting as censor and banning people on coto. And speaking to “hypocrisy”?? and accusing others of “totalitarian divide and conquer”…
Actually Mr Pudstroker, you massage yourself with such obvious hypocrisy.
The proof is in the actions not in the cross accusations. It is Coto who speaks of ‘freedom of speech’ and justice, while banning and purging. It is as simple as that.
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“Pure MK-Killers.” Another mantra from Father Pudstroke.
It makes one wonder how there could ever have been hired murderers in the past before MKUltra…and then the harping on HAARP…how could there have been hurricanes and earthquakes before that came along…???
I get where Puddy is coming from, the tight organization and top down management of the world order cabal…
It is just that everything is so over the rainbow with him. There is no natural synchronicity, no natural phenomena allowed in his world view. This is why I tag him as a fanatic. He is obsessive to the extreme.
It always reminds me of Nietzsche’s cautionary saying, “Look into the abyss long enough, and the abyss looks back into you.”
It seems that now, Puddy is speaking from that abyss.
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“Damn I hate words. I wish I could do it all in numbers.”
~Puddy Dunne on October 26, 2013 at 12:41 pm
http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/e-v-a-n-do-what-thou-wilt-and-die/#comments
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Yes, of course Puddy hates words, because if he tried to explain this in plain English, it would show this numerological bullshit hasn’t any rational meaning beyond razzle dazzle mental masturbation.
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Hi Willy / HybridRogue1,
Yes, it is I the same Noah. I have been involved in 911TM since 2001, finding first the work of Alex Jones at that time as my introduction. I spent a good time later at Tragedy and Hope community and enjoy the openness and civility of discussion there. I like to dabble in learning physics (alternative often, but I like to compare to the standard), and have a passion for permaculture which I use mainly growing food around the house (I took a certification course after studying it a couple years online). I work as a programmer.
Anyway, just recently having come across the Truth and Shadows site, I started reading through some of the 9/11 and other articles and have enjoyed your commentary there, and actually came over to this site but hadn’t checked it out much yet. Thanks for the invitiation.
I then followed links/suggestions to JFKFacts. The biggest “research” I have done on JFK has been listening through the 20 hour peace revolution podcast on it, a couple times, which I thought was really great at bringing together so many different sources of info on it.
-Noah (eggmunkee is my normal username)
Greetings Noah eggmunkee!
I had read some of your recent commentary on Truth & Shadows, and then you showed up on JFKfacts bearing the same style and moniker, and I figgered t’was one an the same you,
You may not be aware of the act of Delaware: McKee v Whitten, in which the Bandersnatch Jurists ruled with impertinent temperament for the Lollipop. Although Bandersnatch, Delaware is but a rural burg of an exotic imagination, there is yet that real-worldly aspect of political machination in attendance to the macabre dance of financiers.
The Sentence was served too late to fall in love with Sharon Tate, as the spoiler had already fled the scene in a cherry apple red 1947 roadster of generic flavor, neither ford nor chebbie nor checkered, and certainly not board certified.
The cipher for all this is in ‘Through the Looking Glass, the “Vlad the Impaler” edition (a rare copy only spread in PDF in the 21st century fox)
Shlong tory sort, Criag McKee and I have parted ways in not so friendly a fashion.
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So Noah,
What do you make of Dr Photon on JFKfacts?
He is quite the character once you get to “know” him.
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http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/comment-of-the-week-16/
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Oh, okay. I see. I am only familiar with McKee in this recent reading I have done. Sorry I missed the trial, heh, not that I have anything against him or that site. I can only partially decode your allegorical explanation, though.
I am just getting a feel for Photon’s debunking methods. He seems to post generalities and then make people hound him for details of where it came from, never following up. How would you characterize him?
Your mention of Sharon Tate brings my mind to the question of the Manson family murders and what the truth was of those cases. I’m guessing you’ve got some thoughts on it. Some variations of narratives I’ve encountered include:
a) mind controlled followers of Manson doing actual killing – Manson being a Satan-worshiping hippie
b) mind controlled followers of Manson doing actual killing – while Manson was handled by intelligence
c) insiders and people more traditionally controlled by intelligence (Manson + followers) creating the illusion of killings (or perhaps with more or less activity by Manson + followers)
I’ve read Dave McGowan’s online work and unexpectedly Miles Mathis’ paper on the subject (the artist/physics dabbler/news analyst) most recently (I can find the link if you are interested).
More broadly, what do you think of the trend in alternative media/investigations that places more and more public events in the category of hoaxes rather than actual events that are false flags (just the identity is hoaxed, not the general event as portrayed by the media and prosecutors)? I can probably find this by searching your recent material, but I thought I’d just ask for your general take on the trend. I half expect 9/11 to be declared a hoax soon if it’s not already, but I don’t rule out hoaxes as possibilities. Sandy Hook seems to be of the hoax variety, but its pretty confusing as a big picture. It almost feels like an expansion pack to the Matrix, especially targeted for those trying to separate the fact from fiction of official stories.
Hi again Noah,
I will be a bit more practical in my style here, so that you understand me. I play with words a lot just for fun, and may get a bit obtuse/oblique for someone unfamiliar with me.
As per the blowup with McKee; it is pretty simple he was hosting James Fetzer on the thread just previous to the moon-hoax thread. Fetzer in my view is a mole, a disinformant who ingratiated (wormed his way) into the so-called Truth Movement on two topics; the JFK Assassination and then the events of 9/11.
Fetzer promotes some of the more “far out” theories on 9/11, which the people that Craig was complaining about in the thread on Ken Doc:
https://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2016/01/01/to-ken-doc/
Such as ‘No planes hit the towers” “Video Fakery”, “Nukes blew up the towers” “Hologram Planes” etc..
These are the issues that Ken Doc and his gang were laying on McKee’s doorstep at T&S. I jumped Fetzer on his first comment to appear on the Ken Doc thread. Craig didn’t like that. I argued to Craig that he could not blame the Ken Doc people for their accusations when right there in that very thread he was hosting Fetzer. Granted Craig made it clear in the body of his article that he disagrees with those issues I enumerated. But I argued back that hosting Fetzer who was then reiterating his claims on those topics right on the thread where Craig was claiming having nothing to do with supporting those issues would have the appearance of ‘support’ nevertheless.
Craig was already feeling put upon by some of Ken Doc’s comrades arguing with him, and felt I was just giving him more grief because I “hate Fetzer”….
Finally Craig put me on moderation, none of my following comments were allowed to show – while Fetzer was allowed to keep bantering on.
I said “Fuck it” and quit the forum. Then Craig said he banned me… then Adam Ruff attempted to negotiate a truce between up by 3 way email. Craig was so pissed off by that time that his very first email to Ruff was that he would NEVER allow me to post on T&S again….”EVER!!!”
There is background to this, and you can read some of that by going to my Moon Hoax page here:
https://hybridrogue1.wordpress.com/2015/05/20/moon-landing-hoax/
Scroll down to near the end of the comments and you will find commentary about the blow up, further commentary on my more recent assessments of McKee’s lack of scientific knowledge, and scathing comments on Fetzer, who has his own page dedicated to him on this blog at:
https://hybridrogue1.wordpress.com/2014/11/26/james-fetzer-professional-conspiracy-theorist/
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As far as the Sharon Tate murder, there is some of my treatment on that at the beginning of this page:
https://hybridrogue1.wordpress.com/2015/12/14/pipe-dreams-on-the-road-to-serfdom/
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Photon? His game is disruption and cognitive infiltration. A real Sunsteinian type agent. He attempts to lead all conversations into the weeds, ultimately putting the spotlight on himself so that everybody is talking about Photon rather than the topic at hand.
Hope this background briefing helps to to understand a little about me and what I do.
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By the way Noah, I can email you and you will of course get my email address in that, if you want to discuss anything behind the scenes.
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Interview 1137 – James Perloff on The Truth About the Spanish-American War
Although it gets short shrift in the history textbooks, in many ways the modern American empire can find its origins in the Spanish-American War. Today we talk to James Perloff of JamesPerloff.com about his article on the war, “Trial Run for Interventionism,” and how the bankers used their media and political connections to launch the war and introduce foreign interventionism to the American psyche.
SHOW NOTES:
JamesPerloff.com
Interview 925 – James Perloff on “Truth Is A Lonely Warrior”
Trial Run for Interventionism
The Kuwaiti Incubator Babies – LIE
Susan Rice’s Viagra Hoax: The New Incubator Babies
“Facts and Fakes about Cuba” by George Bronson Rea
“America’s 60 Families” by Ferdinand Lundberg
I. GOLDEN DYNASTIES AND THEIR TREASURES
“The inner circle of great wealth and the government of the United
States. Unprecedented power of American multimillionaires exceeds
that of Indian princes and European peers. Democracy and plutocracy.
Control of industry and finance through dynastic interlockings.
The family the fortress of great fortunes. Contemporary economic
lords born of upper-class marriages. Some European- American marriages.
Corporation executives related to ruling families. Nepotism.
Women worth $25,000,000 and more. Women multimillionaires
have given no contribution to society. Rigidity of class lines making
caste system inevitable.”~Lundberg
>> http://www.pdfarchive.info/pdf/L/Lu/Lundberg_Ferdinand_-_America_s_60_Families.pdf
“The Politics of War” by Walter Karp
“The Spanish War: An American Epic, 1898” by G.J.A. O’Toole
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1896-1912 50
“Government historically the servant of private wealth. Wealth and
the U. S. government since Colonial days. Hanna, Rockefeller agent.
Hanna inaugurates outright control of government by industrialists
and bankers. Graft the cornerstone of plutocracy in democratic
framework. Whitney, Morgan, Belmont direct the Cleveland Administration.
Standard Oil leads the wealthy in sponsoring McKinley.
Biased legislation of McKinley Administration. The richest
families and the Spanish- American war. An obscure section of
American history. The richest families and the “trusts.” Political
counterpoint of trustification. McKinley’s assassination frightens
Morgan and Rockefeller. Theodore Roosevelt and his long Morgan
affiliation. Theodore Roosevelt consults the magnates on contents of
his state papers. The Northern Securities farce. Fake trust-busting.
The Panama Canal swindle and the wealthy families. The 1904
political slush funds. The insurance scandals and the wealthiest families.
Roosevelt versus Rockefeller; origins of the feud. LaFollette,
the first insurgent. The Morgan-Rockefeller role in the synthetic
panic of 1907. More light on an obscure situation. The raids on F.
Augustus Heinze and the Trust Company of America. George W.
Perkins and the role of The New Yor% Times. The theft of Tennessee
Coal and Iron by Morgan. Roosevelt’s clandestine function as
a Morgan agent. Harriman and Roosevelt. The Roosevelt-Harriman
feud. The damning Harriman letters. Standard Oil and wholesale
political corruption. Rockefellers, at odds with Roosevelt, revealed
as supporters of Parker. Tart installed in White House by Morgan.
Taft permits first bank affiliates to be formed. Approves highest tariff
on record. Why Taft got a hostile press. The Ballinger scandal.
Taft forced to sue U. S. Steel, angering Morgan and Roosevelt.”
~Lundberg – pg. 6
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“Socrates: Have you noticed on our journey how often the citizens of this new land remind each other it is a free country?
Plato: I have, and think it odd they do this.
Socrates: How so, Plato?
Plato: It is like reminding a baker he is a baker, or a sculptor he is a
sculptor.
Socrates: You mean to say if someone is convinced of their trade, they have no need to be reminded.
Plato: That is correct.
Socrates: I agree. If these citizens were convinced of their freedom, they would not need reminders.”
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